BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Coding / ConnectedDrive / Audio-Video / Electronics / Bluetooth / I-Drive & Nav
 
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-30-2011, 03:34 AM   #23
rjd598
Brigadier General
 
rjd598's Avatar
 
Drives: 10' M3
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego,CA

Posts: 4,555
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2010 BMW M3  [4.50]
1999 BMW M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ateam View Post
Give me a break
No op has a very good point and said it very well. No one regrets getting a good radar detector especially one like the v1. You are the first I've heard of having any issues with one and are most likely in an extremely small majority of people.
__________________
rjd598 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 05:43 AM   #24
sameh
Major
 
sameh's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 E92 M3 DCT JetBlk
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NC

Posts: 1,467
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ateam View Post
I don't know where people live but for the large majority of larger cities, instant on is the standard and the V1 or any radar often does nothing to catch this in time unless you have a car in front of you down the road getting "read" with his gun.

I had one but IMO it is more of a risk having one. When you have one you tend to speed more thinking your V1 will protect you. However there are many many times that it just simply does not work and various lasers also get around the V1 in addition to V1. So if you then feel comfortable to speed more than you normally would because you feel "safe" and then you get busted, you are usually quite a bit over speed and possibly dangerously so in a cops eyes.

Without one I found I just drive at less speed and do not get tickets. I actually have gotten no tickets without a V1 whereas I got 2 ticketes with one!

Better than a V1 is very defensive driving in regards to police. Of course this cannot always eliminate every risk but if you generally know the routes you drive and where cops tend to hang out with their guns or just hang out waiting then you obvoiusly take it easy in those zones. I constantly am looking in all my mirros and ahead of me at the cars coming on the on-ramps on the freeway making sure its not a cop, or not a cop somewhere in the distance behind me lurking. You get to be good at spotting a cop cars appearence in your rear view, even if its unmarked. Now there are some complete unmarked cops in normal vehicles that are impossible to tell but that is not the norm.

I personally only speed in the routes I know there is zero-low chance of a cop being around given experience driving that route tons of times. To me this is much safer than gambling with a V1 in unknown territory.
I moved to Dallas area about 3 months ago and all I see is cops outside cars or beside their motorcycles using instant ons. V1 would definitely get me in trouble here. And yes with a V1 I may drive 100mph like ALOT of cars here on hwys
__________________
2011 E92 BatMobile JtBlk/Blk/Blk CF
sameh is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 08:48 AM   #25
_Jono_
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2011 M3 DCT, 2012 GTR, Speed3
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: South Florida

Posts: 217
iTrader: (0)

One in every car.
_Jono_ is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 09:03 AM   #26
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,079
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
I have 4...pretty much says it all.
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 09:22 AM   #27
MDSKIER
Second Lieutenant
 
MDSKIER's Avatar
 
Drives: 12' M3 E92
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Maryland

Posts: 203
iTrader: (1)

OP I will be looking to purchase a detector soon as well.

My short list is the V1 and a 9500xi. Both are very good detectors with advantages/disadvantages.

V1 - I like the directional arrows and the concealed display.

9500xi - I like the red light/speed camera detection and the learning capabilities.

The features for the V1 adding the iPhone app sounds interesting. I need to read up on that...........
MDSKIER is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 09:25 AM   #28
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (13)

I have a V1 with the stealth display and absolutely love it. I actually think that the number of false signals has made me a slower driver on the road. I believe the beeping has conditioned me to generally drive slower though I never had an issue with speeding in the past.

I highly recommend keeping all the alerts on because of one incided. Driving through a wooded area in Wisconsin (no buildings around), I got a heavy K signal, which I was tempted to ignore but slowed down, and moved to the right lane. The highway was going up a slight incline and right at the top, there was a cop car hidden in the trees hitting cars as they came up.
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 10:38 AM   #29
captainaudio
World's Foremost Authority
 
Drives: 335i E93 750Li
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Upper East Side Manhattan - Boca Raton Florida

Posts: 3,216
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=- View Post
Basically, V1's will be able to talk to each other if you have the smart cord. If you're V1 alerts, you send that info out to others in your area with a V1 and the iPhone app. Thanks for all the reviews everyone! I can't wait till it comes in!
I believe that what you are talking about is an Escort feature.

I have had a V1 since the early 1990s and upgrade it regularly. It is hardwired into the E93 and I have the remote module mounted in the ashtray. I also have an Escort 9500ci installed in the car. They are both very effective. The Escort is a bit more sensitive but gets a lot more false alarms. I tend to leave it on but muted in the city and use it only for the arrows (a great feature by the way). The Escort is better at finding laser (probably because of the front and rear sensors mounted next to the license plates). The Escort also has laser jammers and a database of red light and speed detection cameras.

The Escort was a lot more expensive and can not move from car to car. The V1, even when hardwired, can be removed and used in another vehicle. I take it with me when I travel and have used it in a number of rental cars over the years.

I don't tend to speed but the reality is that a lot of "traffic enforcement" is geared more toward revenue than safety.

CA
__________________

Drivers Club at Lime Rock - International Motorsports Research Center
Madison Avenue Sports Car Driving and Chowder Society (Only a Vice President)
Polish Racing Drivers of America (PRDA)
The Glen Club - Sports Car Club of America

Last edited by captainaudio; 10-31-2011 at 02:25 PM.
captainaudio is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 11:22 AM   #30
-=Hot|Ice=-
Been There, Done That.
 
-=Hot|Ice=-'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 BMW M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Maryland

Posts: 4,727
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ateam View Post
Give me a break
Just because YOU use it for speeding doesn't mean everyone else does. Way to generalize. RD's were never built for you to speed. They're actually pointless if you speed. If a cop is using Pop(most do) You're screwed. Knowing what's going on around you is key.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaypod View Post
You sound like my buddies who have AMG's - Slam the gas, slam the brakes...
-=Hot|Ice=- is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 11:55 AM   #31
Ateam
Banned
 
Drives: M3
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: USA

Posts: 1,109
iTrader: (0)

Ok other than speeding what information do you feel is helpful "around you" by using a radar detector? Maybe red light camaras (which are on their way out in this country given showing more accidents) but what other info if you plan to just go the speed limit, is helpful for you to see in a radar detector? You are in the small minority of people who do not buy a radar detector in order to speed more "safely"
Ateam is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 12:09 PM   #32
-=Hot|Ice=-
Been There, Done That.
 
-=Hot|Ice=-'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 BMW M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Maryland

Posts: 4,727
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ateam View Post
Ok other than speeding what information do you feel is helpful "around you" by using a radar detector? Maybe red light camaras (which are on their way out in this country given showing more accidents) but what other info if you plan to just go the speed limit, is helpful for you to see in a radar detector? You are in the small minority of people who do not buy a radar detector in order to speed more "safely"
1.Actually, you're in the minority or using it to speed. Like I said, Being aware of your surroundings makes you a better driver. The more information you have, the better you make decisions. Sooner and earlier. I also don't speed. 6 years of driving and not 1 speeding ticket. Believe it or not, there are good drivers out there. I'm sure most others here agree with me. RD's are pointless because cops use POP. Driving normally and using it gives you the upper hand. Letting you know what's going on up ahead.

2.You know what's wrong with your argument? You're stating your opinion which holds no water. I'm providing you with facts and yet, you act like an arrogant prick.Red light cameras and speed cameras aren't on their way out. They were NEVER put in place for safety purposes. The purpose of speed and red light cameras are REVENUE.

Sidenote: Drop the attitude, I fully respected you. You comment like 'Give me a break' one more time and that respect goes out the window.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaypod View Post
You sound like my buddies who have AMG's - Slam the gas, slam the brakes...

Last edited by -=Hot|Ice=-; 10-30-2011 at 12:14 PM.
-=Hot|Ice=- is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 12:15 PM   #33
dbjb
I sweat pheromones
 
dbjb's Avatar
 
Drives: e92 335i, retired SLK55
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NorCal

Posts: 2,005
iTrader: (22)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ateam View Post
Ok other than speeding what information do you feel is helpful "around you" by using a radar detector? Maybe red light camaras (which are on their way out in this country given showing more accidents) but what other info if you plan to just go the speed limit, is helpful for you to see in a radar detector? You are in the small minority of people who do not buy a radar detector in order to speed more "safely"
Hot Ice, let's try this again. More information just doesn't make sense. What information exactly? What? There's a cop up ahead. Maybe there's an accident to watch for? I just don't get it.
dbjb is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 12:35 PM   #34
M3Now!
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 09 E93, Jerez Black
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Texas

Posts: 372
iTrader: (0)

I was a loyal V1 owner for about four years, and it was great. But, after reading a review of the new (EDIT) Passport 9500 IX, ordered one. Two weeks later the V1 was sold.

The really cool thing about the Passport is that it locks out false signals through the GPS, after three falses in the same place. I didn't realize just how many false signals it locks out until taking a trip out of town into new territory. At home it runs less than one false for every real signal. And great range front and back.

I do miss the arrows, but like the Passport better.

Cheers
__________________


2009 E93 M3 - it's, um, pretty fun

Last edited by M3Now!; 10-30-2011 at 08:29 PM.
M3Now! is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 12:41 PM   #35
stevenross
General
 
stevenross's Avatar
 
Drives: a ride
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: NYC - Bayside

Posts: 432
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2011 BMW M3  [5.00]
2008 BMW X5 3.Slow  [0.00]
V1 saved me many a times from getting arrested, saying that you have to pay attention to the road (on ramps, off ramps, around turns, etc), and rarely do i speed at night..
__________________
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454038
'11 E93 M3 Cab, - Mineral White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather,P2, Cold, Convenience, 19s, EDC, DCT, Prem Sound, Sat Rad - sold
'08 997 C2 Coupe / Carerra White & Sea Blue - Returned
'08 X5 3.Slow / Saphire Black Metallic on Black - Retained
stevenross is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 12:47 PM   #36
MDSKIER
Second Lieutenant
 
MDSKIER's Avatar
 
Drives: 12' M3 E92
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Maryland

Posts: 203
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=- View Post
Basically, V1's will be able to talk to each other if you have the smart cord. If you're V1 alerts, you send that info out to others in your area with a V1 and the iPhone app. Thanks for all the reviews everyone! I can't wait till it comes in!
Ice,

Check this out.

http://www.escortradar.com/escort-live/

I looked on the Valentine site but didn't see what you were referring too.

Thanks.
MDSKIER is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 12:49 PM   #37
MDSKIER
Second Lieutenant
 
MDSKIER's Avatar
 
Drives: 12' M3 E92
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Maryland

Posts: 203
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M3Now! View Post
I was a loyal V1 owner for about four years, and it was great. But, after reading a review of the new Passport 9500 IQ, ordered one. Two weeks later the V1 was sold.

The really cool thing about the Passport is that it locks out false signals through the GPS, after three falses in the same place. I didn't realize just how many false signals it locks out until taking a trip out of town into new territory. At home it runs less than one false for every real signal. And great range front and back.

I do miss the arrows, but like the Passport better.

Cheers
I don't see this model. Were you referring to a Passport 9500ix or a Passport IQ?

Thanks.
MDSKIER is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 12:53 PM   #38
-=Hot|Ice=-
Been There, Done That.
 
-=Hot|Ice=-'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 BMW M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Maryland

Posts: 4,727
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsbj View Post
Hot Ice, let's try this again. More information just doesn't make sense. What information exactly? What? There's a cop up ahead. Maybe there's an accident to watch for? I just don't get it.
You get a signal of some sort from up ahead. It lets you know something is up ahead. Could be a cop, Could be a photo van. The fact is, it lets you know earlier so you can make a decision on what you need to do.


Quote:
Originally Posted by SehrSchnell View Post
I use my V1 for speeding.
You're not helping!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaypod View Post
You sound like my buddies who have AMG's - Slam the gas, slam the brakes...
-=Hot|Ice=- is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 12:55 PM   #39
-=Hot|Ice=-
Been There, Done That.
 
-=Hot|Ice=-'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 BMW M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Maryland

Posts: 4,727
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MDSKIER View Post
Ice,

Check this out.

http://www.escortradar.com/escort-live/

I looked on the Valentine site but didn't see what you were referring too.

Thanks.
I think the V1 version is still in the works. I read it somewhere. I'll see if I can find it for you. I see you're in MD as well? Where at?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaypod View Post
You sound like my buddies who have AMG's - Slam the gas, slam the brakes...
-=Hot|Ice=- is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 01:39 PM   #40
M3Now!
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 09 E93, Jerez Black
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Texas

Posts: 372
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MDSKIER View Post

I don't see this model. Were you referring to a Passport 9500ix or a Passport IQ?

Thanks.
Sorry, you're right: 9500ix
__________________


2009 E93 M3 - it's, um, pretty fun
M3Now! is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 01:42 PM   #41
MDSKIER
Second Lieutenant
 
MDSKIER's Avatar
 
Drives: 12' M3 E92
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Maryland

Posts: 203
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M3Now! View Post
Sorry, you're right: 9500ix
The IQ form factor is pretty cool. Looks like a typical windshield mounted navi.
MDSKIER is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 02:13 PM   #42
ThunderMoose
Captain
 
Drives: 2009 C2S and 2003 E46 M3
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: League City, TX

Posts: 962
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=- View Post
You get a signal of some sort from up ahead. It lets you know something is up ahead. Could be a cop, Could be a photo van. The fact is, it lets you know earlier so you can make a decision on what you need to do.
I am calling BS on you. Decision implies to me that you're between two choices - continue speeding or slow down. If you're below the speed limit already, what decision are you making? slow down even more?

Most people that have radar detectors realize the limits and aren't going to use an excuse to drive recklessly. When my detector goes off, I take a peak at my speed and slow down if necessary.

Admit it bro, you speed and you use your detector to avoid getting speeding tickets.

ThunderMoose is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 02:25 PM   #43
MilehighM3
Colonel
 
MilehighM3's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs

Posts: 2,066
iTrader: (9)

I've had a V1 for about 8 years. Love it and upgrade it every 2-3 years. It works great. I'm not sold on the escort for one reason being that I see cops in the same areas regularly and it would eventually block a lot of them. My V1 saved me back when I had my M3 headed across Kansas for a wedding. Running late and pushing it a little, it picked up a brief KA signal- just 1 bar. Never saw it again, I marked the distance with my trip computer and I was just about to run the speed back up after cresting a slight hill. There was the cop, 2.6 miles later. Sold IMO. I use the arrows more often than not in my area. I would have to drive with a 9500ix for at least a month prior to even consider dropping my V1. I'm quite happy as a V1 owner and have no plans to change it. I'm sure either are better than nothing!
MilehighM3 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-30-2011, 02:31 PM   #44
Mr. ///M3 RD
Major General
 
Mr. ///M3 RD's Avatar
 
Drives: E350 & 280 SL on Weekends :)
Join Date: May 2010
Location: GTA, Ontario - Canada

Posts: 7,863
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=- View Post
I ordered a V1. V1 owners satisfied with it?
I never use such devices ... I try to stay with the flow of the traffic or about 10% or so above posted speed limits when I drive in North America.

I get my kicks on the Autobahn when I visit the old country as the saying goes ... or as the American saying goes ... "I get my kicks on Route 66"

In all of my years of driving (and they have been many) I only had 3 speeding tickets.

Nevertheless Hot|Ice, I wish you well with your V1
__________________
Cheers, Rolf-Dieter

Life will take us to some interesting places, fortunately The ///M3 will too with a many of us know this very well
---> Click here for some good stuff I found
Mr. ///M3 RD is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:55 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST