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      07-23-2013, 12:57 AM   #1
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I want to mod my E90 ZCP DCT but I don't want to go too crazy. I was thinking about dinans M3 stage 2 power "kit" that goes for $5800 plus tax/install. It includes software, intake, exhaust, throttle bodies, and pullies. In all prob adding about 60hp. I know it not much but this is my dd so I want to keep my mods on the more reliable side. Anyone have this on their car?

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      07-23-2013, 01:04 AM   #2
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For that amount you csn get a used supercharger
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      07-23-2013, 01:10 AM   #3
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Testpipes and a tune from Evolve, ESS, etc is really all you need as far as bolt on power and costs much less. Add muffler if you want more sound.
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I'm happy with all my Dinan stuff. I wouldn't spend money on the intake though. I would just get a high flow performance filter for 60 bucks and it will get you the same (minimal) gains. There isn't much to gain from the stock intake itself. The other mod I highly recommend is the differential. Made the car a lot nicer as a daily drive because with the added torque at the wheels I don't feel like I need to drive around in the mid to upper RPM range all the time.
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Which differential did you go with? Looks like one available for 6MT and 2 for DCT
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Which differential did you go with? Looks like one available for 6MT and 2 for DCT
3.45 for DCT. That's a 9.5% difference. The other one is 3.62 which is a 15% difference, which is a little extreme for me and would really change the character of the car.
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Just get the Dinan intake with an exhaust and tune. For $3,700 you can get the ESS full exhaust.
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Any chance you're in northern CA? I wouldn't mind going along for a ride to feel the difference.
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Just get the Dinan intake with an exhaust and tune. For $3,700 you can get the ESS full exhaust.
I'll have to compare the exhaust notes on YouTube.
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Any chance you're in northern CA? I wouldn't mind going along for a ride to feel the difference.
More than happy to... Pop on up to Northeast Oregon. It's only about a 13 hour drive.
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I'll have to compare the exhaust notes on YouTube.
Think Akrapovic, but with deeper tone.
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      07-23-2013, 04:13 AM   #12
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Tune, test pipe, exhaust, pulley and throw in high flow filter

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I had dian intake, throttle body, tune and remus exhaust on my 2000 M and could not feel much difference. Too much money for so little bang. Spend a bit more and get 100hp supercharged or spend alot less and get the same small ral world results
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I had dian intake, throttle body, tune and remus exhaust on my 2000 M and could not feel much difference. Too much money for so little bang. Spend a bit more and get 100hp supercharged or spend alot less and get the same small ral world results
Always think that dinan costs too much to gain too less
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      07-23-2013, 08:09 AM   #15
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Have not seen one comment that throttle bodies did much of anything.

Mystic Blue: All due respect BUT the diff is effective BECAUSE it keeps your revs up- that is truly ALL it does.
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The stage 2 kit probably is not worth the money. You can get similar gains and spend half that. As far as bolt-on NA mods, most people tend to agree your best bet is:
  • Primary Cat Delete (via either Test Pipes or a high-flow X pipe setup with the Primary Cat Delete already done)
  • Power Pullies (reduces power loss caused by the power steering and AC)
  • Software Tune (tuned specifically for primary cat delete)
  • Air Filter (adds a few HP, probably not worth it because now you have to clean it or change it regularly if you want to keep the few HP you gained)
  • Rear Exhaust (muffler - just for sound really)

Forum members that have done the above have seen 30-40 HP gains. A high flow x-pipe will net you a little bit more HP (+5 HP?) over just installing a test pipe.

IMO, save yourself a bunch of money and do the following:
Test Pipe (400)
Pullies (400)
Software (1000)

1800 bucks for 30-40HP gain is a pretty good deal. If you really want to spend the extra cash buy yourself some lightweight wheels and/or a Brake Kit. The brakes really are one of the weaker areas on this car (not weak, just weaker compared to the performance of the rest of the car)
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I have the Dinan intake, pulley, exhaust, and software there is a noticeable increase in power and the sound is perfect to me. Not too loud at start up or cruise, but when you stand on it - music. I went the Dinan route for the warranty and reliability. I would do the test pipes for greater gain, but the state of Virginia frowns on those. With the package discount Cost was about $3700 + $350 labor for the install. Perhaps a little pricy, but quality is top notch and a warranty.
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I want to mod my E90 ZCP DCT but I don't want to go too crazy. I was thinking about dinans M3 stage 2 power "kit" that goes for $5800 plus tax/install. It includes software, intake, exhaust, throttle bodies, and pullies. In all prob adding about 60hp. I know it not much but this is my dd so I want to keep my mods on the more reliable side. Anyone have this on their car?

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btw 60 HP is being VERY generous. Dinan's own site claims 451 total power output for the Stage 2 kit. That's in the 30-40 HP range.
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btw 60 HP is being VERY generous. Dinan's own site claims 451 total power output for the Stage 2 kit. That's in the 30-40 HP range.
yeah, overestimated a little. Was just shooting from the hip. Point being not much gain for the $$ but you get the warranty/reliability.
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Have not seen one comment that throttle bodies did much of anything.

Mystic Blue: All due respect BUT the diff is effective BECAUSE it keeps your revs up- that is truly ALL it does.
Yeah, I know how it works. I'm talking about lazy driving around town... If I'm cruising along at 2000 rpm I can still give it half throttle and get a some acceleration without feeling like it's bogging down. Before, getting caught in that situation, I would have to downshift. Not a big deal, but it's easier to drive around leisurely. It's more flexible. Getting caught in a higher gear isn't as much of a penalty now. I don't think there is a huge performance gain while driving aggressively as I would be up in the higher end of RPM anyway. But I haven't run across any downside. Anyway, the pluses and minuses have all been discussed a thousand times on this and other forums.
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I want to mod my E90 ZCP DCT but I don't want to go too crazy. I was thinking about dinans M3 stage 2 power "kit" that goes for $5800 plus tax/install. It includes software, intake, exhaust, throttle bodies, and pullies. In all prob adding about 60hp. I know it not much but this is my dd so I want to keep my mods on the more reliable side. Anyone have this on their car?

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Forget the throttle bodies and get the X pipe. Lots of people will say Dinan is not worth the money, but the piece of mind is worth every dime. And the quality of their products is great..................Phil
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Forget the throttle bodies and get the X pipe. Lots of people will say Dinan is not worth the money, but the piece of mind is worth every dime. And the quality of their products is great..................Phil
I agree.

You'll get way more performance out of the X pipe than the throttle bodies.

I could be wrong, but I looked at throttle bodies as a lot of money for getting that last, small, little nth degree of performance, and even that won't be apparent anywhere but full throttle near redline.
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