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      10-19-2011, 09:49 PM   #1
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Reverse gear position

Hi guys, sometimes when i start the car and put in the reverse gear, the actual gear doesn't lock into position. i press the gas slightly and the car is still in the park position (DCT) while it actually says R on the dashboard. i would have to put the car back in neutral and put it back in reverse, then it works fine. This happend to me probably around 3-4 times since i had the car and the car has about 1500 miles on it. I was wondering if anyone has experienced this issue. I don't really think this is a big issue, but i was wondering if i should take it to the dealership to have them look at it but im pretty sure they will say "we found nothing wrong" which is what they always say about any issue lol. This problem happens rarely and it only when i start the car, maybe cause its cold? idk

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      10-19-2011, 10:27 PM   #2
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I have had 2 DCT M3's ('08 and '11) for a total of 35K miles and never experienced what you have described. I would take it back to your Dealer - hopefully you can videotape (via your cell phone) the issue to prove you aren't crazy.

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      10-19-2011, 10:31 PM   #3
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If you put it into R quickly the car stays in neutral. Next time just try to wait a second or two before putting it in R. It's normal..
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      10-19-2011, 11:15 PM   #4

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The parking pawl is released by hydraulic pressure that is created when the engine is running. The engine drives a hydraulic pump in the front of the M-DCT transmission. After starting the engine there needs to be enough transmission pressure created to disengage the parking pawl to allow the car to move.

If you are fast on the reverse selection after starting the engine you could have the condition you are describing.
Several factors might contribute to this also:
1. Length of time since the vehicle was last started (fluid drain back)
2. Fluid temperature (pressure build time)
3. Load on the pawl (parking on a slope where the pawl is holding the vehicle)

There also could be a chance that the fluid level is low. When the fluid is cold this would be a possible problem, but “cure itself” when the transmission fluid is warmed up.
Transmission fluid level changes with temperature.

This is a link for pictures of the parking pawl and description
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      10-20-2011, 12:25 AM   #5
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Agree with kenwelch...happens if Its cold and put in R too fast. I always wait for N, then go for R.
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      10-20-2011, 09:17 AM   #6

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Mine does the same thing. We've discussed here it the past - it is normal.

Thank you kenwelch for the very thorough analysis.
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