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      10-19-2011, 08:07 PM   #1
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Expensive rims, and cheap ass tires?

I'm seeing quite a few people who go all out and buy pretty expensive wheels
Only to mount cheap ass tires on them
Can someone please explain why someone would do this?
Why not spend half the money on wheels and half on some decent tires?
All that stands between you and the road are 4 small contact patches
Why gamble on them?

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      10-19-2011, 08:17 PM   #2
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I'd guess it's a question of $$$ at the end. I agree though, best to get good tires and good wheels. I went ARC-8's, not too expensive but JWL tested, track tested, look great, strong, etc. And PS2's. Good set up for me.
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      10-19-2011, 08:21 PM   #3
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      10-19-2011, 08:58 PM   #4
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wats a good tire? example of expensive rims and cheap tires?

why do ppl do this? cuz they can get the expensive rim to show that they are "ballin" then get cheap tires cuz nobody cares about tires.
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You don't need drag radials for street use. Something that rides good works fine for the street. I am sure most people have a set of rims for track only use with good tires.
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What are some "cheap ass tires" to you?
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What are some "cheap ass tires" to you?
Nanking, General etc
I'm not saying everyone should go out and buy Michelin pilot super sports
But at least stick to the brands that have been around for a long time
Michelin, pirelli, continental, dunlop,bridgestone etc
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You don't need drag radials for street use. Something that rides good works fine for the street. I am sure most people have a set of rims for track only use with good tires.
Maybe
But if you are not pushing your car at all, hence accepting something that just "rides good"
And you're skimping on the tires
Why did you buy an M3 in the first place?
It's like the people who bitch how the M3 requires premium gas
Seriously?
The difference on a full tank of gas between regular and unleaded is about $3
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      10-19-2011, 10:17 PM   #9
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Never understood this either. If you have the money for nice wheels, you should have the money for nice tires...
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      10-19-2011, 10:37 PM   #10
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i did it backwards and got better tires than wheels. Its a situation I would like to remedy but I simply can't find a wheel that I like the looks of for dual purpose. There are lots of expensive wheels out there that I like because of their weight savings and strength but then the looks suck so I can't pull the trigger. Unfortunately deep concave, light weight, high strength, and cheapish isn't out there.
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I get annoyed when people stress the importance of their performance oriented car with big wheels, or good track wheels
Then they turn around and throw some Nitto Invos on them
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Nanking, General etc
I'm not saying everyone should go out and buy Michelin pilot super sports
But at least stick to the brands that have been around for a long time
Michelin, pirelli, continental, dunlop,bridgestone etc
Then I agree completely. There are decent less expensive tires out there, like the V12's, Vreds that work well and are a lot less than the PS2's.

But MANY on this board are all about the looks and bling. I'm ok with it as long as it allows BMW go continue to make M cars, but it's sad that BMW seems to be catering to this crowd now with all these new "//M" cars that really are NOT true //M cars.
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LOL the stuff ppl complain about
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bfd, r u gon buy them the tires?
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      10-20-2011, 04:56 AM   #15
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I think V12s are a pretty cheap tire

I didn't think so before... I thought they were amazing, I swore by them... then I drove using AD08s and RS3s

Now V12s are garbage to me.
so are most other tires...PS2s included
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      10-20-2011, 07:58 AM   #16
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I'm not in an autocross or a track every day, I just drive to work and here and there hit that highway exit at double the posted speed limit. A $2000+ set of tires that require replacement every 13-15 months is not for me.

The only time that I found that the "cheap ass" General Exclaim UHP was not great was at an autocross. Other than that I still think that they are one of the biggest bang for the buck out there, with great traction, handling and most important to me due to my location -its hydroplaning resistance is absolute. I mean, these suckers go thru water like nothing.

Then I found the Continental DW and the DWS which are much better than the Exclaim in everything, for around $100 more per tire. I used the DW in my old M3, my girlfriend VW CC uses the DWS. Again, ride, handling in both dry or wet exceed my expectations in the street. Where they greatly exceed the Exclaim is in noise levels; compared to the Exclaim both the DW and the DWS are virtually silent.

I bought last week a brand new set of 20" PS2 from a local person selling them for less than half the price -or some $200 more that what I paid for the last 19" DW set-, so this is the very first time that I get a "real" deal set of tires for any of my M3 since 2004.

Which it will be great so I can finally find out once my M3 arrives if money really buys happiness on tires.
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Maybe
But if you are not pushing your car at all, hence accepting something that just "rides good"
And you're skimping on the tires
Why did you buy an M3 in the first place?
It's like the people who bitch how the M3 requires premium gas
Seriously?
The difference on a full tank of gas between regular and unleaded is about $3
I run V12s which are a pretty cheap tires but then again I drive about 6000 miles a month, and they work for how I use them. I have a set of stock rims that are tireless atm that will most likely get some sort of radial slicks; like BFGs or something.
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I get annoyed when people stress the importance of their performance oriented car with big wheels, or good track wheels
Then they turn around and throw some Nitto Invos on them
We have been down this road before..nothing wrong with Invos..are they track tires no but I have been through a whole set with quite a few runs on them and they are actually a pretty good tire. They aren't that cheap either...

There have been threads where the new almighty PSS's got corded the first time at the track. For a street car the Invos are a pretty good tire. Now that my tires are pretty much gone, well the rears are now at 14k miles on the car I will probably go to a Mich PSS or the A008s. However, if I had to I would have no issues going back to a Invo. I think they are better than the CS3s that came on the car.


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You can get either the ad08s or the re-11s for roughly the same money and they are far superior in performance.especially dry.
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Ive used everything from a few sets of 1000 aftermarket wheels to a many sets of 4,5 and 6K wheels. I generally stick to Michelin PS2, or now PSS as I would rather not sacrifice on tires than wheels and personally feel more comfortable with Michelins. I bought my 255/275 PSS set up for 1200, which IMO is very cheap for tires.
Well the good news is that the PSS is actually a very good price for the quality of tire. I just wish the PSSs came in 285/30/19s.

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hahaha i went cheap on both... roughly 1k on the wheels and 750 on my tires... V12....

put 10k miles and i still have 80% thread.. i drive like a grandma though...
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I went cheap with VMRs and bought AD08s. Pretty sure my tires were more expensive then my wheels?
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