Update on new Schroth Harnesses - Page 13

leo95se · 08-28-2012, 07:39 PM

Wow!! Ordered the mini harness yesterday, received and installed today. Thanks HMS!
Install was easy. For the front seat, I don't have the forward torx bolt, so used the bolt under the seat side bolster, rear in the pics above.
That was a 13mm.
Rear is a T50.
They fit perfectly, just like stock, with plenty of adjustment.

My only concern is that the damn m3 seats don't sit very low, and the lower straps seems to sit a bit higher than desired. I'm sure I can adjust though.

bigjae1976 · 08-28-2012, 07:42 PM

So it works?

leo95se · 08-28-2012, 07:47 PM

There is no reason it can't be sold as an m3 product.
Unless I die and we all find out otherwise. Lol

bigjae1976 · 08-28-2012, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo95se

Unless I die and we all find out otherwise. Lol

Don't do that! Then we'd be back at square one trying to find a harness.

Oh...we'd send our condolences of course.

1MOREMOD · 08-28-2012, 10:31 PM

plus there is that guy looking for a stacked up m3 lurking around who will scoop up your car.

thorny · 08-28-2012, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo95se

Wow!! Ordered the mini harness yesterday, received and installed today. Thanks HMS!
Install was easy. For the front seat, I don't have the forward torx bolt, so used the bolt under the seat side bolster, rear in the pics above.
That was a 13mm.
Rear is a T50.
They fit perfectly, just like stock, with plenty of adjustment.

My only concern is that the damn m3 seats don't sit very low, and the lower straps seems to sit a bit higher than desired. I'm sure I can adjust though.

Pics?

LiM3y · 08-28-2012, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjae1976

Don't do that! Then we'd be back at square one trying to find a harness.

Oh...we'd send our condolences of course.

"Then they'd be back at square one trying to find a harness"

Fix't.

We'd be cool again and the envy of all of M3dom once more!

KM3 · 08-28-2012, 10:54 PM

Leo, any reason why you didn't attach to the T50 bolt at the head of the belt guide rod on the floor just behind the driver's seat?

Autobahn335i · 08-29-2012, 02:31 AM

Great to hear it works and that I could help the community!

leo95se · 08-29-2012, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KM3

Leo, any reason why you didn't attach to the T50 bolt at the head of the belt guide rod on the floor just behind the driver's seat?

I looked for a floor connection point (not much value in using the seat as one from a safety standpoint) but the only one I saw was on the slider, and I would have had to to bend the bracket. I'll pop the belt guide cover off and see if it will work. The straps have enough lengt to reach.

LiM3y · 08-29-2012, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo95se

I looked for a floor connection point (not much value in using the seat as one from a safety standpoint) but the only one I saw was on the slider, and I would have had to to bend the bracket. I'll pop the belt guide cover off and see if it will work. The straps have enough lengt to reach.

In coupes, that is the suggested attachment point for the fixed harnesses, and the bracket on the harness is meant to be bent to line up with the tension in the harness belt.

My Schnell · 08-29-2012, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Where did you order it? My shop is damn slow at the moment

HMS as well ...

Shosholoza · 08-29-2012, 10:53 AM

Leo
What is the part number from HMS for our E92?
This is FANTASTIC news!!

adc · 08-29-2012, 07:06 PM

Track report from VIR...

This is it guys, no issues at all in 2 days at VIR, it's what I've been waiting for. I've noticed it's more effective in combination with the inflatable bolsters. My harness searching days are finally over, and at a modest price too.

The only modification I'll make is to create a little leather sheath for the driver side seat strap, whose metal bracket is a bit too close to the upper seat bolsters. So to avoid any possible rubbing issues, I'll essentially wrap it in a bit of padded leather. I'll post pics as soon as I'm done with it.

My personal note about fitting and tightening - when adjusting the shoulder straps, take care not to pull up on the lap section, otherwise it can ride too high and - my guess - lose effectiveness (as well as being damn uncomfortable).

KM3 · 08-29-2012, 08:15 PM

Great report - glad it worked out! Mine arrived today but I have no car to install it into.

Service appointment took longer than anticipated so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to do the install.

bigjae1976 · 08-29-2012, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adc

Track report from VIR...

This is it guys, no issues at all in 2 days at VIR, it's what I've been waiting for. I've noticed it's more effective in combination with the inflatable bolsters. My harness searching days are finally over, and at a modest price too.

The only modification I'll make is to create a little leather sheath for the driver side seat strap, whose metal bracket is a bit too close to the upper seat bolsters. So to avoid any possible rubbing issues, I'll essentially wrap it in a bit of padded leather. I'll post pics as soon as I'm done with it.

My personal note about fitting and tightening - when adjusting the shoulder straps, take care not to pull up on the lap section, otherwise it can ride too high and - my guess - lose effectiveness (as well as being damn uncomfortable).

You have to get the lap belts tight and low so the lap belt is flat, not vertical. Then it wont ride up your chest when you tighten down the shoulder harnesses.

1MOREMOD · 08-29-2012, 09:42 PM

great good to finally have an option.

bigjae1976 · 08-29-2012, 09:53 PM

Oh yeah, now I can get a HANS since I can use the quick fit pro in my E90!

aus · 08-29-2012, 09:57 PM

Once you guys have pics, start a new thread so it's easier to find later.

leo95se · 08-29-2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shosholoza

Leo
What is the part number from HMS for our E92?
This is FANTASTIC news!!

http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/store/s...k-fit-pro-mini

R55 chassis.

leo95se · 08-29-2012, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiM3y

In coupes, that is the suggested attachment point for the fixed harnesses, and the bracket on the harness is meant to be bent to line up with the tension in the harness belt.

not sure im comfortable with that. it looks like it will place the strap at an odd angle, and interfere with seat sliding. if i can get the seatbelt slider to work, ill try that

bigjae1976 · 08-29-2012, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo95se

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiM3y

In coupes, that is the suggested attachment point for the fixed harnesses, and the bracket on the harness is meant to be bent to line up with the tension in the harness belt.

not sure im comfortable with that. it looks like it will place the strap at an odd angle, and interfere with seat sliding. if i can get the seatbelt slider to work, ill try that

The directions show that you need to bend the ends. I did on mine. You just can't keep re-bending.

08-28-2012, 07:42 PM	#266
bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,046 iTrader: (8)	So it works? __________________

08-28-2012, 10:31 PM	#269
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,493 iTrader: (3)	plus there is that guy looking for a stacked up m3 lurking around who will scoop up your car. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

08-28-2012, 10:54 PM	#272
KM3 Formerly K335i Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 209 iTrader: (0)	Leo, any reason why you didn't attach to the T50 bolt at the head of the belt guide rod on the floor just behind the driver's seat? __________________ 2009 E92 M3 :: Jet Black :: Fox Red Extended :: Carbon Leather :: 6MT :: JRZ RS Suspension :: RD Sport Sways :: StopTech Trophy Brakes :: Cantrell Brake Cooling

08-29-2012, 02:31 AM	#273
Autobahn335i Major Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 1,355 iTrader: (3)	Great to hear it works and that I could help the community! __________________ E92 335i SB / Black Leather / 6AT / Navi Prof / Sunroof / Active Steering Mods: Performance Seats / Performance Exhaust / RB Turbos / Brembo GT BBK 355/345 / Forge FMIC / QUAIFE LSD / Bilstein PSS10 / M3 Suspension Parts / Vorshlag Camberplates / RE Toe Links / LeatherZ Gauges / Extended M3 DCT Paddles / ER Sports OC / AR OC / Aux Radiator / AR DPs / Alpina TCU Flash / COBB Pro-Tune Next: Transmission cooler / M3 CF Roof

08-29-2012, 10:53 AM	#277
Shosholoza Shosholoza Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne, Florida Posts: 160 iTrader: (0)	Leo What is the part number from HMS for our E92? This is FANTASTIC news!! __________________ E92 M3, Competition Package, MDCT, Convenience Package. Premium Package 2, BMW Apps, Ground Control Adjustable Camber plates, Cantrell brake cooling system, StopTech 380 BBK, Schroth Quickfit Pro Harnesses

08-28-2012, 07:39 PM	#265
leo95se First Lieutenant Drives: 09 JB e92, Q5 and passat Join Date: May 2009 Location: CT Posts: 372 iTrader: (1)	Wow!! Ordered the mini harness yesterday, received and installed today. Thanks HMS! Install was easy. For the front seat, I don't have the forward torx bolt, so used the bolt under the seat side bolster, rear in the pics above. That was a 13mm. Rear is a T50. They fit perfectly, just like stock, with plenty of adjustment. My only concern is that the damn m3 seats don't sit very low, and the lower straps seems to sit a bit higher than desired. I'm sure I can adjust though.

08-28-2012, 07:47 PM	#267
leo95se First Lieutenant Drives: 09 JB e92, Q5 and passat Join Date: May 2009 Location: CT Posts: 372 iTrader: (1)	There is no reason it can't be sold as an m3 product. Unless I die and we all find out otherwise. Lol

08-29-2012, 07:06 PM	#278
adc Brigadier General Drives: 2009 E90 M3 ED Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MD/DC Posts: 3,945 iTrader: (6)	Track report from VIR... This is it guys, no issues at all in 2 days at VIR, it's what I've been waiting for. I've noticed it's more effective in combination with the inflatable bolsters. My harness searching days are finally over, and at a modest price too. The only modification I'll make is to create a little leather sheath for the driver side seat strap, whose metal bracket is a bit too close to the upper seat bolsters. So to avoid any possible rubbing issues, I'll essentially wrap it in a bit of padded leather. I'll post pics as soon as I'm done with it. My personal note about fitting and tightening - when adjusting the shoulder straps, take care not to pull up on the lap section, otherwise it can ride too high and - my guess - lose effectiveness (as well as being damn uncomfortable). __________________ 2009 E90 M3 ED 2012 MINI Countryman S 2000 Boxster

08-29-2012, 08:15 PM	#279
KM3 Formerly K335i Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 209 iTrader: (0)	Great report - glad it worked out! Mine arrived today but I have no car to install it into. Service appointment took longer than anticipated so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to do the install. __________________ 2009 E92 M3 :: Jet Black :: Fox Red Extended :: Carbon Leather :: 6MT :: JRZ RS Suspension :: RD Sport Sways :: StopTech Trophy Brakes :: Cantrell Brake Cooling

08-29-2012, 09:42 PM	#281
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,493 iTrader: (3)	great good to finally have an option. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

08-29-2012, 09:53 PM	#282
bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,046 iTrader: (8)	Oh yeah, now I can get a HANS since I can use the quick fit pro in my E90! __________________

08-29-2012, 09:57 PM	#283
aus Major General Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA Posts: 6,156 iTrader: (5)	Once you guys have pics, start a new thread so it's easier to find later. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."

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