Legend or not

Prophizee · 10-04-2011, 08:48 PM

Do you guys consider the e9x m3 a legendary car?

SoTempted · 10-04-2011, 08:51 PM

M3 in general sure, specifically E9x... not necessarily.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 10-04-2011, 08:51 PM

I think I'd consider the engine legendary. The car could go either way but I don't think so.

rjd598 · 10-04-2011, 08:54 PM

yes it is...before you start arguing tell me why then has the e9x won every comparison it has been in after 4/5years of being in production? sure there are improvements we might like to see in the e9x m3 but yes down the line this model will be looked up to. besides the e30 m3 i dont see the e36 or e46 getting as much praise for its performance

ajvee · 10-04-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

yes it is...before you start arguing tell me why then has the e9x won every comparison it has been in after 4/5years of being in production? sure there are improvements we might like to see in the e9x m3 but yes down the line this model will be looked up to. besides the e30 m3 i dont see the e36 or e46 getting as much praise for its performance

+1 The sustained dominance in comparison tests despite major updates by its competitors is something for the history books.

SoTempted · 10-04-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

yes it is...before you start arguing tell me why then has the e9x won every comparison it has been in after 4/5years of being in production? sure there are improvements we might like to see in the e9x m3 but yes down the line this model will be looked up to. besides the e30 m3 i dont see the e36 or e46 getting as much praise for its performance

Good point.

1sikbmr · 10-04-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ajvee

+1 The sustained dominance in comparison tests despite major updates by its competitors is something for the history books.

+1

E9X FTMFW!

RichMattB · 10-04-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

yes it is...before you start arguing tell me why then has the e9x won every comparison it has been in after 4/5years of being in production? sure there are improvements we might like to see in the e9x m3 but yes down the line this model will be looked up to. besides the e30 m3 i dont see the e36 or e46 getting as much praise for its performance

The automotive journalists have given praise to the E9x in much greater measures than all previous M cars. People are talking about this being the greatest car in the world, etc. If you judge the E9x based on the accolades from people who do nothing but drive cars all day, then yes it must be considered legendary.

ES_TRADER · 10-04-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 1sikbmr

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Originally Posted by ajvee

1 The sustained dominance in comparison tests despite major updates by its competitors is something for the history books.

1

E9X FTMFW!

Best car ever made by man. Period no contest

IFX · 10-04-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by richpuer

Best car ever made by man. Period no contest

We all know the e9xM3 is awesome..

but... come on guy. hop off now...

Totti · 10-04-2011, 09:13 PM

Nah I like the N55 better

*Runs*

bmw_enthusiasm · 10-04-2011, 09:25 PM

its not to be considered a legend.
it is. just look at the data

this engine will remain in history

piloto · 10-04-2011, 09:35 PM

The S65 is amazing, and the ride and handling compromise of this car is really outstanding (unbelievable until your experience it day in, day out).

However, it's not a legend because it doesn't have true competition pedigree. Unfortunately, there aren't many series nowadays in which this car can be competitive (it's not going to hold a candle to a GT3 in a track setting). For a car to be truly legendary, in my book at least, it has to be both on the road and the track. On the road alone, it most definitely is, but not on the track, and only because it's not being raced properly (the versions racing out there don't really qualify in my opinion, as the deviate too much from the stock car).

mdosu · 10-04-2011, 09:42 PM

yes

kmarei · 10-04-2011, 09:45 PM

E30 M3 is a legend
E92 M3 is a great car with a fantastic engine
I've owned both, and trust me when I tell you the E30 was way, way ahead of it's time

w00tw00t · 10-04-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

E30 M3 is a legend
E92 M3 is a great car with a fantastic engine
I've owned both, and trust me when I tell you the E30 was way, way ahead of it's time

I think the E92 is a legend too (in my books

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kmarei · 10-04-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by w00tw00t

I think the E92 is a legend too (in my books

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Don't get me wrong
I love my e92
But I feel to be a legend you need to bring something new to the table
Not just perfect an existing concept
The M3 was custom built, to be a winner
The e92 was built to sell a lot of cars
Comfort access this, idrive that, etc

Why nor start by saying what cars we feel are legends?
911 is a legend
The original Audi Quattro is a legend
The Lancia Delta Integrale is a legend
Original Golf GTi etc

captainaudio · 10-04-2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

Don't get me wrong
I love my e92
But I feel to be a legend you need to bring something new to the table
Not just perfect an existing concept
The M3 was custom built, to be a winner
The e92 was built to sell a lot of cars
Comfort access this, idrive that, etc

Why nor start by saying what cars we feel are legends?
911 is a legend
The original Audi Quattro is a legend
The Lancia Delta Integrale is a legend
Original Golf GTi etc

Ferrari 250 GTO
Mercedes 300 SL
Shelby Cobra
Camaro Z28
BMW 507
BMW M1
Ferrari Testarossa (original version)

CA

W Cole · 10-04-2011, 10:22 PM

Its a great luxury sports car but lets be honest with ourselves. It has almost identical performance characteristics as a Ford Mustang GT. The engine is good, over 100HP a liter, but lacks torque and doesn't get very good fuel economy. Great car, but not a "legend."

immiketoo · 10-04-2011, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by piloto

The S65 is amazing, and the ride and handling compromise of this car is really outstanding (unbelievable until your experience it day in, day out).

However, it's not a legend because it doesn't have true competition pedigree. Unfortunately, there aren't many series nowadays in which this car can be competitive (it's not going to hold a candle to a GT3 in a track setting). For a car to be truly legendary, in my book at least, it has to be both on the road and the track. On the road alone, it most definitely is, but not on the track, and only because it's not being raced properly (the versions racing out there don't really qualify in my opinion, as the deviate too much from the stock car).

Do we really need to remind you of the ALMS in which the M3 competes directly with Porsche's flagship car? And, if you think the Porsche is any closer to its production car, you are sadly mistaken. Both of these cars start out as a body tub in the white and the rest of the car is race. In fact, I would wager that they are damn near identical in terms of percentage of stock components vs race components.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 10-04-2011, 11:14 PM

The e9x never broke any new ground. Like I said above, I'd consider the engine to be legendary, but the car, No way.

bmw_enthusiasm · 10-04-2011, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by W Cole

Its a great luxury sports car but lets be honest with ourselves. It has almost identical performance characteristics as a Ford Mustang GT. The engine is good, over 100HP a liter, but lacks torque and doesn't get very good fuel economy. Great car, but not a "legend."

mustang is a legend...

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10-04-2011, 08:51 PM	#2
SoTempted Captain Drives: Incompetently Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 729 iTrader: (2)	M3 in general sure, specifically E9x... not necessarily.

10-04-2011, 09:25 PM	#12
bmw_enthusiasm Private First Class Drives: M3 550i Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: MA Posts: 126 iTrader: (0)	its not to be considered a legend. it is. just look at the data this engine will remain in history

10-04-2011, 09:35 PM	#13
piloto Captain Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 832 iTrader: (0)	The S65 is amazing, and the ride and handling compromise of this car is really outstanding (unbelievable until your experience it day in, day out). However, it's not a legend because it doesn't have true competition pedigree. Unfortunately, there aren't many series nowadays in which this car can be competitive (it's not going to hold a candle to a GT3 in a track setting). For a car to be truly legendary, in my book at least, it has to be both on the road and the track. On the road alone, it most definitely is, but not on the track, and only because it's not being raced properly (the versions racing out there don't really qualify in my opinion, as the deviate too much from the stock car).

10-04-2011, 10:22 PM	#19
W Cole Second Lieutenant Drives: 2009 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Newport Coast, CA Posts: 295 iTrader: (3)	Its a great luxury sports car but lets be honest with ourselves. It has almost identical performance characteristics as a Ford Mustang GT. The engine is good, over 100HP a liter, but lacks torque and doesn't get very good fuel economy. Great car, but not a "legend."