BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > General M3 Forum (E90 + E92 + E93)
 
ESS Tuning
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-04-2011, 08:48 PM   #1
Prophizee
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2012 GTR, 2014 x1 3.5 Msport
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Central New Jersey

Posts: 297
iTrader: (0)

Legend or not

Do you guys consider the e9x m3 a legendary car?
Prophizee is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 08:51 PM   #2
SoTempted
Captain
 
SoTempted's Avatar
 
Drives: Incompetently
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Clovis, NM

Posts: 758
iTrader: (2)

M3 in general sure, specifically E9x... not necessarily.
SoTempted is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 08:51 PM   #3
-=Hot|Ice=-
Been There, Done That.
 
-=Hot|Ice=-'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 BMW M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Maryland

Posts: 4,727
iTrader: (0)

I think I'd consider the engine legendary. The car could go either way but I don't think so.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaypod View Post
You sound like my buddies who have AMG's - Slam the gas, slam the brakes...
-=Hot|Ice=- is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 08:54 PM   #4
rjd598
Brigadier General
 
rjd598's Avatar
 
Drives: 10' M3
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego,CA

Posts: 4,596
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2010 BMW M3  [4.50]
1999 BMW M3  [0.00]
yes it is...before you start arguing tell me why then has the e9x won every comparison it has been in after 4/5years of being in production? sure there are improvements we might like to see in the e9x m3 but yes down the line this model will be looked up to. besides the e30 m3 i dont see the e36 or e46 getting as much praise for its performance
__________________
rjd598 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 08:54 PM   #5
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,439
iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rjd598 View Post
yes it is...before you start arguing tell me why then has the e9x won every comparison it has been in after 4/5years of being in production? sure there are improvements we might like to see in the e9x m3 but yes down the line this model will be looked up to. besides the e30 m3 i dont see the e36 or e46 getting as much praise for its performance
+1 The sustained dominance in comparison tests despite major updates by its competitors is something for the history books.
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 08:56 PM   #6
SoTempted
Captain
 
SoTempted's Avatar
 
Drives: Incompetently
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Clovis, NM

Posts: 758
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rjd598 View Post
yes it is...before you start arguing tell me why then has the e9x won every comparison it has been in after 4/5years of being in production? sure there are improvements we might like to see in the e9x m3 but yes down the line this model will be looked up to. besides the e30 m3 i dont see the e36 or e46 getting as much praise for its performance
Good point.
SoTempted is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 09:00 PM   #7
1sikbmr
Brigadier General
 
1sikbmr's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3 6MT
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: New York

Posts: 3,277
iTrader: (14)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajvee View Post
+1 The sustained dominance in comparison tests despite major updates by its competitors is something for the history books.
+1

E9X FTMFW!
__________________

E90 ///M3 6MT Atlantis Blue - Fox red
ESS VT1-550|Gloss black grilles/Gold gills|V1 hardwire|Filled reflectors|ZHP lighted shift knob|Volk TE37 Gloss Black|Mode Carbon GT4 Lip|Umnitza V4 full blackout kit|Agency Power exhaust|Sosi x-pipe|BMW Performance Steering Wheel V1|
1sikbmr is online now  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 09:01 PM   #8
RichMattB
Private First Class
 
Drives: e90 ///M3, e70 X5 4.8i
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NE USA

Posts: 136
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rjd598 View Post
yes it is...before you start arguing tell me why then has the e9x won every comparison it has been in after 4/5years of being in production? sure there are improvements we might like to see in the e9x m3 but yes down the line this model will be looked up to. besides the e30 m3 i dont see the e36 or e46 getting as much praise for its performance
The automotive journalists have given praise to the E9x in much greater measures than all previous M cars. People are talking about this being the greatest car in the world, etc. If you judge the E9x based on the accolades from people who do nothing but drive cars all day, then yes it must be considered legendary.
RichMattB is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 09:01 PM   #9
ES_TRADER
Colonel
 
Drives: 328i, 335i, M3, 535i, X5, 36M
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: OC

Posts: 2,544
iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2014 Ford Raptor  [0.00]
2012 328i E92  [5.00]
2013 X5  [0.00]
2013 335i F30  [4.00]
1990 Toyota Previa  [0.00]
1997 E36 M3  [5.00]
2011 E92 M3  [0.00]
2011 535i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1sikbmr View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajvee View Post
1 The sustained dominance in comparison tests despite major updates by its competitors is something for the history books.
1

E9X FTMFW!
Best car ever made by man. Period no contest
ES_TRADER is online now  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 09:03 PM   #10
IFX
Banned
 
Drives: AW e46M/N54
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South Fla.

Posts: 2,538
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by richpuer View Post
Best car ever made by man. Period no contest
We all know the e9xM3 is awesome..

but... come on guy. hop off now...
IFX is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 09:13 PM   #11
Totti
Troll
 
Totti's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posts: 1,192
iTrader: (0)

Nah I like the N55 better

*Runs*
__________________
BMW E92 M3 Coupe | Jerez Black | Fox Red Extended / Carbon Black Trim| Fully Loaded | Moonroof | 6MT | Gintani Sport
Quote:
Originally Posted by ES_TRADER
Use the stick like u would a manual. If that doesn't work, put it in D mode and put both hands at 10 and 2. If that doesn't work, just sit on your right hand.
Totti is offline   Italy
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 09:25 PM   #12
M3er
Private First Class
 
Drives: M3,911S
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: MA

Posts: 187
iTrader: (0)

its not to be considered a legend.
it is. just look at the data
this engine will remain in history
M3er is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 09:35 PM   #13
piloto
Captain
 
Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Orange County, CA

Posts: 835
iTrader: (0)

The S65 is amazing, and the ride and handling compromise of this car is really outstanding (unbelievable until your experience it day in, day out).

However, it's not a legend because it doesn't have true competition pedigree. Unfortunately, there aren't many series nowadays in which this car can be competitive (it's not going to hold a candle to a GT3 in a track setting). For a car to be truly legendary, in my book at least, it has to be both on the road and the track. On the road alone, it most definitely is, but not on the track, and only because it's not being raced properly (the versions racing out there don't really qualify in my opinion, as the deviate too much from the stock car).
piloto is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 09:42 PM   #14
mdosu
Banned
 
Drives: Double Vanos'd Civic-M3
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Francisco

Posts: 8,517
iTrader: (6)

yes
mdosu is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 09:45 PM   #15
kmarei
Major General
 
kmarei's Avatar
 
Drives: 1988 E30 M3 Evo II
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Reston, VA

Posts: 6,480
iTrader: (33)

Garage List
E30 M3 is a legend
E92 M3 is a great car with a fantastic engine
I've owned both, and trust me when I tell you the E30 was way, way ahead of it's time
__________________
This user has been banned from the 4 series forum because he doesn't sing its merits like the admins want us all to

kmarei is offline   Egypt
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 09:53 PM   #16
w00tw00t
Lieutenant Colonel
 
w00tw00t's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Z06
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Seattle

Posts: 1,624
iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kmarei View Post
E30 M3 is a legend
E92 M3 is a great car with a fantastic engine
I've owned both, and trust me when I tell you the E30 was way, way ahead of it's time
I think the E92 is a legend too (in my books ) ...
w00tw00t is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 10:03 PM   #17
kmarei
Major General
 
kmarei's Avatar
 
Drives: 1988 E30 M3 Evo II
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Reston, VA

Posts: 6,480
iTrader: (33)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by w00tw00t View Post
I think the E92 is a legend too (in my books ) ...
Don't get me wrong
I love my e92
But I feel to be a legend you need to bring something new to the table
Not just perfect an existing concept
The M3 was custom built, to be a winner
The e92 was built to sell a lot of cars
Comfort access this, idrive that, etc

Why nor start by saying what cars we feel are legends?
911 is a legend
The original Audi Quattro is a legend
The Lancia Delta Integrale is a legend
Original Golf GTi etc
__________________
This user has been banned from the 4 series forum because he doesn't sing its merits like the admins want us all to

kmarei is offline   Egypt
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 10:21 PM   #18
captainaudio
World's Foremost Authority
 
Drives: 335i E93 750Li
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Upper East Side Manhattan - Boca Raton Florida

Posts: 3,216
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kmarei View Post
Don't get me wrong
I love my e92
But I feel to be a legend you need to bring something new to the table
Not just perfect an existing concept
The M3 was custom built, to be a winner
The e92 was built to sell a lot of cars
Comfort access this, idrive that, etc

Why nor start by saying what cars we feel are legends?
911 is a legend
The original Audi Quattro is a legend
The Lancia Delta Integrale is a legend
Original Golf GTi etc
Ferrari 250 GTO
Mercedes 300 SL
Shelby Cobra
Camaro Z28
BMW 507
BMW M1
Ferrari Testarossa (original version)

CA
__________________

Drivers Club at Lime Rock - International Motorsports Research Center
Madison Avenue Sports Car Driving and Chowder Society (Only a Vice President)
Polish Racing Drivers of America (PRDA)
The Glen Club - Sports Car Club of America
captainaudio is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 10:22 PM   #19
W Cole
Captain
 
Drives: 2009 M3
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Newport Coast, CA

Posts: 748
iTrader: (4)

Its a great luxury sports car but lets be honest with ourselves. It has almost identical performance characteristics as a Ford Mustang GT. The engine is good, over 100HP a liter, but lacks torque and doesn't get very good fuel economy. Great car, but not a "legend."
W Cole is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 10:57 PM   #20
immiketoo
Colonel
 
immiketoo's Avatar
 
Drives: Smoothly
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Chicago Burbs

Posts: 2,873
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by piloto View Post
The S65 is amazing, and the ride and handling compromise of this car is really outstanding (unbelievable until your experience it day in, day out).

However, it's not a legend because it doesn't have true competition pedigree. Unfortunately, there aren't many series nowadays in which this car can be competitive (it's not going to hold a candle to a GT3 in a track setting). For a car to be truly legendary, in my book at least, it has to be both on the road and the track. On the road alone, it most definitely is, but not on the track, and only because it's not being raced properly (the versions racing out there don't really qualify in my opinion, as the deviate too much from the stock car).
Do we really need to remind you of the ALMS in which the M3 competes directly with Porsche's flagship car? And, if you think the Porsche is any closer to its production car, you are sadly mistaken. Both of these cars start out as a body tub in the white and the rest of the car is race. In fact, I would wager that they are damn near identical in terms of percentage of stock components vs race components.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by double eagle View Post
Thickness feels good to me and my hands aren't that big.
immiketoo is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 11:14 PM   #21
-=Hot|Ice=-
Been There, Done That.
 
-=Hot|Ice=-'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 BMW M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Maryland

Posts: 4,727
iTrader: (0)

The e9x never broke any new ground. Like I said above, I'd consider the engine to be legendary, but the car, No way.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaypod View Post
You sound like my buddies who have AMG's - Slam the gas, slam the brakes...
-=Hot|Ice=- is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-04-2011, 11:37 PM   #22
M3er
Private First Class
 
Drives: M3,911S
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: MA

Posts: 187
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by W Cole View Post
Its a great luxury sports car but lets be honest with ourselves. It has almost identical performance characteristics as a Ford Mustang GT. The engine is good, over 100HP a liter, but lacks torque and doesn't get very good fuel economy. Great car, but not a "legend."
mustang is a legend...
M3er is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:56 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST