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      10-03-2011, 12:08 PM   #23
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Keep head up and stay over right when you are not fast. Awareness of others on track with you is key.
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      10-03-2011, 12:09 PM   #24
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Oh I thought you were at ring today!!!!!! My bad. Enjoy day man. Drop a couple of pics from the day. I was supposed to be at Watkins glen today but my car is not ready.
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      10-03-2011, 12:10 PM   #25
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thanks i do okay. last day of the season probably but just announced 8 winter driving days so i may get to go a few more days over the winter
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      10-03-2011, 12:26 PM   #26
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Wow, Bergwerk where Lauda had his accident in 1976! I remember that area when I was at the ring in 2007 doing an M3 program.
Exactly!

And when I took the Ring Taxi a few years ago, the BMW pilot announced at that particular section of the track [german accent] "this is where Niki Lauda lost his ear....we're still looking for it"
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      10-03-2011, 12:30 PM   #27
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I was at the Ring racing this weekend. Way too many cars on the track and many are driving extremely fast, in extremely fast cars. It is a dangerous track, tons of blind corners and hill tops, and most of the cars there this weekend were, as I mentioned, crazy fast. I put down around 400 whp and I was about the slowest one on the track Saturday morning. It's not like I'm driving slowly either, I usually go around in about 9 mins give or take a few seconds depending on traffic/road surface.

It is, however, the most mind blowing race track I've ever been to, and I will keep coming back as long as it will be possible. The thrill and satisfaction of mastering the more tricky places and the way you feel g-forces up and down the hills are intoxicating.

So my point is, it's good that nobody was seriously hurt, but accidents like that will happen again and again unless they put in a warning ligth system or employ like 200 race officials.....

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      10-03-2011, 12:38 PM   #28
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What were you racing? Was it a vln race? If it was tourist lapping, then it's is actually more dangerous than a vln race!!!!!!! I've done trainings there and tourist laps ( also known as terrorist laps). It's like swimming in the ocean. It's at your own risk during open lapping. I almost took out a couple of blind bikers in wipperman one day. It's nuts!!!!
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      10-03-2011, 12:41 PM   #29
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I hope they don't change anything and make it a numb safe place. It will ruin the mystique of it all. The fact that it's the biggest most dangerous track in the world is why we all love it. Leave it alone and let it do what it does. Reward the good drivers and punish the bad.
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      10-03-2011, 12:43 PM   #30
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Its all fun til things like this happen on a track. People get careless
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I read that the taxi driver was distracted. That would explain why the other three cars slowed safely.
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      10-03-2011, 12:57 PM   #32
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crazy, i read it was little over 190k worth of damage
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What were you racing? Was it a vln race? If it was tourist lapping, then it's is actually more dangerous than a vln race!!!!!!! I've done trainings there and tourist laps ( also known as terrorist laps). It's like swimming in the ocean. It's at your own risk during open lapping. I almost took out a couple of blind bikers in wipperman one day. It's nuts!!!!
LOL, I couldn't agree more. It's nuts. It was tourist laps, and a lot of over confident drivers IMHO. I would much rather be on the track for a VLN race as well. But I just took my daily driver down for a spin. I also like it the way it is, but I always let over confident tourist drives pass, that way at least they won't take me out when they crash

Saturday evening or late afternoon there was a road accident just 150 ft from our hotel where a motorcycle driver was killed. Those guys drive even more crazy on the winding roads around the Ring than they do on the Ring itself. The locals said they had about 2 fatalities a week in the motorcycle season.....
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      10-03-2011, 01:30 PM   #34
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Amazing none of these articles listed the 8 cars.

Anyone help here?
1. M3 Ring Taxi
2. Old e36 M
3. Vette
4. Old Porsche
5. Older 5 or 7 series
6. Orange car??? Maybe a Gumpert Apollo?
7. Blue Car??? Maybe a TVR, maybe a lookieloo?
8. Little Yellow Targa????

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      10-03-2011, 02:13 PM   #35
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sorry to hear, hopefully the one hospitalized does recover quickly

on a positive note, that e90 m3 taxi looks amazing
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      10-03-2011, 02:24 PM   #37
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Poor 993! That isn't going to buff out! Glad there were no fatalities!
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Amazing none of these articles listed the 8 cars.

Anyone help here?
1. M3 Ring Taxi
2. Old e36 M
3. Vette
4. Old Porsche
5. Older 5 or 7 series
6. Orange car??? Maybe a Gumpert Apollo?
7. Blue Car??? Maybe a TVR, maybe a lookieloo?
8. Little Yellow Targa????

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Here is the list of cars in the wreck at the Ring:

The cars involved (not in order of the crash) were a Corvette Z06, a Porsche 911 (RSR clone?) an E36 BMW 3-Series, an E30 BMW 3-Series, two Vauxhall VXR220s, an E92 BMW M3 and the BMW M3 ring taxi.

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      10-03-2011, 04:00 PM   #39
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wow thats crazy.. does anyone know which car was the one to hit and start this domino effect of the crash?
my bet says corvette.......
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This is some sad news, but at the same time always a great reminder of how important safety equipment is when we take our cars out on the track. It's always nice to invest all our money in fancy mods, but always make sure you guys invest in proper safety equipment.

What scares me the most is that I often see photos of guys running the Ring without helmets. I don't know the Ring's rules and regulations, but do they not require helmets?

To get in an accident like that without a helmet is absolutely terrifying...
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These things can happen on the Ring...

...you have takes these circumstances into account when you drive around.

Luckily I wasn´t there last weekend.
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Noooooooooo not the 993!!!

But glad everyone is ok, and the one person injured will hopefully get better soon!
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Us 1addicts also have a thread going on about this crash...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...5#post10539885


Here is a good video (that Elsabor67 posted) showing just how little notice the cars at speed on teh track had about that "construction zone". The track management should have had another sign atleast 300 meters before that trailer sign. Quite dangerous for the track management to not be of the mind of safety for the track cars.

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Someone just made the video you just posted private Dack. Here is another video, but before the accident. And this continues to amaze me.....WHY IN THE HELL DOES NURBURGRING AG ALLOW WORK TO BE DONE WHILE THE TRACK IS OPEN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!



They did that one time last year when I went to the track. That is stupid. Also, do you notice in the pictures how the only sign that was up is the trailer sign? Thay should have placed that sign before the curve.....not after it.



Here's a vid I found of a guy coming up on the repair area before the accident. It's also posted on the Save The Ring FB page. See how fast he has to drop down on speed.





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