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      09-18-2011, 11:54 PM   #1
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2011 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

No more European races (not enough!!!), and we're back in Asia Pacific region for the next four races.

Singapore already on its fourth year on the only entire night race in the calender. We saw some exciting moments, but generally the race itself is less dramatic like Canadian this year.

What I dislike about Singapore (based on experience from F1 2010), its just a bunch of straights, then 90 degrees turn. Track itself is boring and lack of character. We hope the new regulations will help the show (sadly Valencia is so back its beyond revival). As well as expected rain/thunderstorm throughout the weekend. I'm not sure if it means long duration showers, or the occasional storm that comes and goes within an hour.

Race Date: 25 Sep 2011
Circuit Name: Marina Bay Street Circuit
Number of Laps: 61
Circuit Length: 5.073 km
Race Distance: 309.316 km
Lap Record: 1:45.599 - K Raikkonen (2008)

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Fri 23 September 2011
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18:00 - 19:30
Practice 2 21:30 - 23:00
Sat 24 September 2011
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19:00 - 20:00
Qualifying 22:00
Sun 25 September 2011
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Fri 23 September 2011
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Practice 2 06:30 - 08:00
Sat 24 September 2011
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Qualifying 07:00
Sun 25 September 2011
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Fri 23 September 2011
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Practice 2 09:30 - 011:00
Sat 24 September 2011
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07:00 - 08:00
Qualifying 10:00
Sun 25 September 2011
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Singapore rain is like clockwork. It is the rainy season right now, so it rains around 3-4 pm everyday for around 1 hour, and then stops. Rest of the day is dry. Rain at night is really, really rare at this time of the year.

I assume DRS will be on the longest straight? The good thing is that unlike Monaco, passing is possible - hopefully DRS will help things out in that regard. I'd expect tires to degrade pretty quick, too - it's a hot track with a lot of slow/medium speed corners.
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I wouldn't mind a rainy night race though.
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Singapore rain is like clockwork. It is the rainy season right now, so it rains around 3-4 pm everyday for around 1 hour, and then stops. Rest of the day is dry. Rain at night is really, really rare at this time of the year.

I assume DRS will be on the longest straight? The good thing is that unlike Monaco, passing is possible - hopefully DRS will help things out in that regard. I'd expect tires to degrade pretty quick, too - it's a hot track with a lot of slow/medium speed corners.
That's how I Remember too, and that's how the Malaysian GP F***ed up in 2009.
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That's how I Remember too, and that's how the Malaysian GP F***ed up in 2009.
Wasn't that the race with Kimi and his famous ice cream incident?
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Wasn't that the race with Kimi and his famous ice cream incident?
and felipe wants a white (clear) visor!!!!
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Wow...the Singaporean promoters must be some of the best organized in Formula 1. The whole event from start to finish is seamless and beautifully orchestrated. Reminds me of why I love Singapore

If only they could make the track a bit more pass-friendly...but let's wait and see if Pirelli + KERS + DRS will do the trick.
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Wow...the Singaporean promoters must be some of the best organized in Formula 1. The whole event from start to finish is seamless and beautifully orchestrated. Reminds me of why I love Singapore

If only they could make the track a bit more pass-friendly...but let's wait and see if Pirelli + KERS + DRS will do the trick.
Actually the promoters and organizers are awesome...we have never really heard any bad news about the event since 2008, at least not like Korean GP or Indian GP with so many troubles and issues to resolve. The whole event was seamless and smooth since ever.

The only down side is the track itself. I just wish there's more variety of corners and shorter and a bit more highspeed.
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The only down side is the track itself. ......
^trudat.

Something besides a series of 90deg corners connected by straight bits would be nice.
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yea, not the best track but its provided some fun races w/ plenty of controversy to keep us arguing till the next GP

BTW, just got F1 2011 and wow, they really improved the driving experience but man, be careful on cold tires, or its tokyo drift out there lol
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yea, not the best track but its provided some fun races w/ plenty of controversy to keep us arguing till the next GP

BTW, just got F1 2011 and wow, they really improved the driving experience but man, be careful on cold tires, or its tokyo drift out there lol
I know this is off-topic, but care to comment on how it differs from '10, aside from the obvious bits?
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watched alonso's pole lap from last year...that track looks super boring. This is my first year following F1 but wow that looks very uneventful.
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I know this is off-topic, but care to comment on how it differs from '10, aside from the obvious bits?
the driving and the AI have really kicked it up, the AI is very aggressive now, where in 2010 all you once you were in the lead, was to block, now they dont play that, they will find any little mistake you make and they are gone.

my only complaint so far, is KERS regenerates on its own after each lap, at least it did in P1 and P2, havent had my first actual race (in career) yet but i didint like that

I did one GP race as LH at SPA in the rain, and omg its the scariest thing when you are behind someone going into Eau Rouge. DRS is great too, makes the car ridiculously unstable if you open it too early or close it too late going into the braking zone

sorry to go OT guys but it sorta relates
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The FIA has confirmed that there will be just one DRS zone at the Marina Bay circuit for the Singapore Grand Prix.

The Italian Grand Prix at Monza saw two separate zones with two separate detection points used for the first time, following on from double zones in Canada and Valencia. On the bumpy street circuit in Singapore, however, the FIA has reverted to a single DRS zone which will be placed between turns five and seven.

The detection point for the zone is 230m before turn five, with the activation point located 35m after the apex of the corner. With the slight right hand kink of turn six taken completely flat out, the drivers can then use the DRS until the braking zone for turn seven, which is the best overtaking opportunity on the circuit.
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Looking at the map, I wish they didn't have the kiddie complex from turns 18-21. Just connect the track so that it is a straight line from 17 -22, and then have 22 and 23 be one really fast left hander before the straight. That would be so much entertaining.
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Looking at the map, I wish they didn't have the kiddie complex from turns 18-21. Just connect the track so that it is a straight line from 17 -22, and then have 22 and 23 be one really fast left hander before the straight. That would be so much entertaining.
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That slows down the track so much, and makes the race at least 1hr 45 mins long. Any safety car will creep into the 2 hour limit. Just connect turns 16-19 and make turn 20 sharper and anticipate a second DRS Zone.

The reason they put it is to say we have a track directly underneath the grandstand...who the F cares???
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16 to 20 possible. 18 to 23 impossible as that is the actual road surface being followed, although from 20 to 3 is purpose-built.
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16 to 20 possible. 18 to 23 impossible as that is the actual road surface being followed, although from 20 to 3 is purpose-built.
Just flip the grandstand facing raffles blvd and forget turns 16-19...done....turn 20-21 is hard to modify because its directly under a highway pass.

correct, turns 21-3 is purpose build and its open for most of the time. I walked on it when I visited the Singapore flyer during nov, 2009. and stepped on the curb around turns 22 and 23...(no...i didn't spin)...
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That slows down the track so much, and makes the race at least 1hr 45 mins long. Any safety car will creep into the 2 hour limit. Just connect turns 16-19 and make turn 20 sharper and anticipate a second DRS Zone.

The reason they put it is to say we have a track directly underneath the grandstand...who the F cares???
exactly, 16-19 kills the track, 18-21 would work too but i dont think thats an easy fix

iirc, some of the drivers complained about 16-19 when the track first opened
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