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      05-01-2012, 08:53 AM   #23
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Interesting, I didn't know this could be done. Anyone mind sharing a rough cost estimate? Since pretty decent wheels can be had for $1000-1200 a set (and keep resale value) this would have to be pretty low to make it worth it IMO.
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      05-01-2012, 09:14 AM   #24
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gosh....not to be a downer here, but that looks like structural failure waiting to happen. Seems kinda dangerous to have welds consistently bearing rotational loads.
1" of properly penetrated weld will hold 20,000psi. FYI if anything is properly welded the material will always fail before the weld.
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      05-01-2012, 12:13 PM   #25
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A few of you asked about the cost, its about $250 per wheel. I see a ton of cars that are tracked that do this with no problem. As Raptor said, if done properly the material fails before the weld.

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Offset is the distance from the center of the wheel to the mounting face.

Widen the wheel = you are relocating the center of the wheel to a new position = its distance to the mounting face changes = you are changing offset.

You'll end up with a 19x11 ET37.5ish.

In any case measure and make sure you have have an extra 1in/25mm to spare on the inside. Maybe a little more to take into account the tire.

And since the wheel is somewhat sunken into the fender (outer clearance doesn't change) you might want to run a spacer to bring it out and gain clearance on the inside.
In terms of calculating offset, this is correct to an extent. However, fender clearance will not change at all as it typically would.

What I think Dave is asking in this regard is if his wheel clearance will change in regard to the fender. The answer is no, it will not. If he widens a wheel, it is being widened by 1" on the inner wheel as you mentioned.
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For those who are wondering if this is safe, possible or reliable, this is a perfectly fine solution to wider wheels. It has been done time and time again without issues.

I have personally widened wheels of my own without any issue on cars that have over 700 RWHP that were either dragged or road course raced.

I personally would not have had the wheel widened the way tintboy had his wheels done. The safer and proper approach is to weld on a wider rear blank instead of adding material in between to acheive the width.

For those wanting someone that does this, please contact Eric Vaughn.
http://www.ericvaughnmachine.com/

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In terms of calculating offset, this is correct to an extent. However, fender clearance will not change at all as it typically would.

What I think Dave is asking in this regard is if his wheel clearance will change in regard to the fender. The answer is no, it will not. If he widens a wheel, it is being widened by 1" on the inner wheel as you mentioned.
If it is correct to an extent then I'm curious to know to what extent is it not?

Like I said, "outer clearance doesn't change".

19x11 ET37.5 and 19x10 ET25 have the same outer clearance.
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If it is correct to an extent then I'm curious to know to what extent is it not?

Like I said, "outer clearance doesn't change".

19x11 ET37.5 and 19x10 ET25 have the same outer clearance.
Your method of calculating wheel offset is correct. I was not disagreeing with you.

However, it is possible to misunderstand. Some may understand it as width does not affect fender clearance when in fact it does. Only in this case where the wheel is being widened from the inside it does not affect wheel clearance.
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I noticed alot of the AM wheels that are out there for 19X11 are ET33. This sounds like to me I may need to run a 5mm spacer to get a little extra clearance..what you think Malek. I am really getting ready to go this route or a set of Forgestars in 19X10 and 19X11. Just love the look of the ZCP wheel yet the added width and aggressive offset would just be icing on the cake.


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by 1" on the inner rim, how would this affect offset?

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Adding 1" to the inner side of the rim would change the wheel from 19x10 ET25 to 19x11 ET38
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