Dct vs 6mt m3

F1 fan · 08-24-2011, 01:04 PM

I am looking at a dct and currently have a manual. Are the issues resolved on the dct. The one I am looking at is a 09 and has the latest software update.

Team Plutonium · 08-24-2011, 01:09 PM

Totti · 08-24-2011, 01:14 PM

Get a 6MT.

Unless you're one of those guys that prefers to give his partner an orgasm through a vibrator, you'll appreciate the extra involvement.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 08-24-2011, 01:20 PM

Here we go again....

Scoobe · 08-24-2011, 01:53 PM

DCT issues were solved last spring I believe. Most everyone got the fix with the software. Don't make your decision based on issues you have read, they have been a minority of owners. You need to decide if you want a DCT or a manual and if you don't know, then try something different, in this case a DCT. You know what the 6MT is like, try the DCT and see if you become a convert.

As a point of reference, in the last year I have read several posts from members who went from DCT to 6MT and generally regretted it. I even think a member had a 6MT for like 2 months and traded back to a DCT. I think BMW spent a considerable amount of time setting the car around the DCT given that the GTS is in DCT only.

Personally I love it to the point of never wanting to drive another torque converter automatic ever again.

F1 fan · 08-24-2011, 04:48 PM

I agree the manual may be more involved from a driver perspective but the dct shifts so quick. I am getting older I guess because I would have not even considered this option before.

abehwang · 08-24-2011, 04:54 PM

One thing about DCTs are that you will have a constant surge of power even throughout the shifts without any interruptions compared to the 6MT. Even though you can do that with the 6MT, most people aren't fast enough to shift and even if they are...its not like the DCT shifts.

img · 08-24-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

Can i get some

jjjheimer · 08-24-2011, 11:47 PM

The DCT is brilliant. I have an '09 with the latest software. Perfectly rev-matched downshifts are completely awesome. Functional AND gratuitous downshifts with throttle blip FTW!

Nine · 08-25-2011, 08:39 AM

Test Drive it. DCT is much more aggressive, faster and at the same time a lot easier to deal with on a day to day basis.

It has the best of both worlds, ability to select a gear manually, ability to select a gear automatically, you also have the ability to blip the throttle on down-shifts manually or automatically, DCT you also gain an extra clutch to keep things moving mid-shift.

The 'raw' feeling you will miss is the old school left foot, engaging of the clutch, for many this is an old school must have, it's almost counter-intuitive for them to drive an 'automatic' sports car, which I assure the DCT is far from.

For the level of driver that you are *otherwise this wouldn't be a question, and the places that you will go, you are most likely dealing less with performance and more with feeling, you'll need to decide which feels better and which package is more enjoyable to drive for you.

For some it is rowing through the gears, for others it's downshifting the DCT just to hear the revs pop.

mdosu · 08-25-2011, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

oooo popcorn!

TxFeatFan · 08-25-2011, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdosu

oooo popcorn!

+1
Popcorn FTW!

Rekrul · 08-25-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nine

for others it's downshifting the DCT just to hear the revs pop.

. I love the DCT, every single car before this one was manual. It truly is amazing and I think makes the car more fun to drive... not to mention faster while at the same time you can go into total relax mode if need be.

CSanto · 08-25-2011, 11:41 AM

26k miles..and getting a little bored of DCT

gthal · 08-25-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HREM3

26k miles..and getting a little bored of DCT

I get bored of all cars, regardless of transmissions, by that point

lenzm3edan · 08-25-2011, 01:14 PM

6spd for real drivers, DCT for chumps.

chris s · 08-25-2011, 01:28 PM

I wouldn't mind trying a DCT at some point, although i worry about getting bored over time. My main concern, however, is that my girlfriend will assume it's ok to drive the M, because "it's automatic"!

Not happening! lol

Totti · 08-25-2011, 01:39 PM

I got bored of a non-manual after 16,000kms. Pressing a button to me is like playing a computer game.

Rev matched downshifts are nice, but you can do that anytime in a MT.

RON1X · 08-25-2011, 02:11 PM

I don't think "one is better than the other." 6MT vs DCT is just different options of achieving the same result: changing gears. If you haven't driven the DCT, check it out to see if you like it (you know what a 6MT is like). It comes down to what you like more and what is going to make more sense for you; there is no "right" answer that anyone on the forum could give you. good luck though (it definitely is a hard decision for some

)

CSanto · 08-25-2011, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gthal

I get bored of all cars, regardless of transmissions, by that point

Very True, I feel it lol

F1 fan · 08-25-2011, 03:16 PM

I wasn't looking for a perfect answer. I was just curious if anyone has gone from one to the other and what their experience was. When I watch videos on you tube I am just amazed at how quick the dct shifts. I almost wish it wasn't able to be a automatic at all and you had to shift manually all of the time. That way you couldn't get lazy and put in drive an go.

Totti · 08-25-2011, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F1 fan

I wasn't looking for a perfect answer. I was just curious if anyone has gone from one to the other and what their experience was. When I watch videos on you tube I am just amazed at how quick the dct shifts. I almost wish it wasn't able to be a automatic at all and you had to shift manually all of the time. That way you couldn't get lazy and put in drive an go.

and that was my issue - always got lazy and reverted to full auto.

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chris s Brigadier General Drives: 2012 e92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Posts: 4,622 iTrader: (8)	I wouldn't mind trying a DCT at some point, although i worry about getting bored over time. My main concern, however, is that my girlfriend will assume it's ok to drive the M, because "it's automatic"! Not happening! lol __________________ 2012 MR e92 M3 DCT, fully loaded... ESS NA V2 Tune, Akra/Challenge Sport, KW Sleeve, OEM GTS rims, Volk TE37 SLs 2008 e92 M3 Coupe 6MT \| AW/BLK Extended...SOLD!

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RON1X Colonel Drives: SSII E92 M3, '13 Audi Allroad Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,465 iTrader: (8) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [4.50]	I don't think "one is better than the other." 6MT vs DCT is just different options of achieving the same result: changing gears. If you haven't driven the DCT, check it out to see if you like it (you know what a 6MT is like). It comes down to what you like more and what is going to make more sense for you; there is no "right" answer that anyone on the forum could give you. good luck though (it definitely is a hard decision for some) __________________ '08 E92 ///M3: SSII \| Black Novillo \| M-DCT \| IND \| Black M359 \| AE Performance Exhaust \| V1 Sold: '07 E92 335i: BSM/ Fox Red \| Vishnu v5 \| DCI \| Bilstein PSS9 \| Morr VS8.2s \| UUC SSK \| AE Exhaust \| Aero Lip \| etc...

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-=Hot\|Ice=- Been There, Done That. Drives: 2013 BMW M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,729 iTrader: (0)	Here we go again....

08-24-2011, 04:48 PM	#6
F1 fan Private Drives: 08 e92 m3 Join Date: May 2007 Location: OHIO Posts: 59 iTrader: (0)	I agree the manual may be more involved from a driver perspective but the dct shifts so quick. I am getting older I guess because I would have not even considered this option before.

08-24-2011, 04:54 PM	#7
abehwang Captain Drives: e90 m3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: US Posts: 427 iTrader: (0)	One thing about DCTs are that you will have a constant surge of power even throughout the shifts without any interruptions compared to the 6MT. Even though you can do that with the 6MT, most people aren't fast enough to shift and even if they are...its not like the DCT shifts.

08-24-2011, 11:47 PM	#9
jjjheimer Private Drives: 2009 E90 M3 M-DCT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 53 iTrader: (0)	The DCT is brilliant. I have an '09 with the latest software. Perfectly rev-matched downshifts are completely awesome. Functional AND gratuitous downshifts with throttle blip FTW!

08-25-2011, 08:39 AM	#10
Nine Banned Drives: Not ZCP, FML. Join Date: May 2010 Location: DC, Miami, NYC Posts: 1,926 iTrader: (2)	Test Drive it. DCT is much more aggressive, faster and at the same time a lot easier to deal with on a day to day basis. It has the best of both worlds, ability to select a gear manually, ability to select a gear automatically, you also have the ability to blip the throttle on down-shifts manually or automatically, DCT you also gain an extra clutch to keep things moving mid-shift. The 'raw' feeling you will miss is the old school left foot, engaging of the clutch, for many this is an old school must have, it's almost counter-intuitive for them to drive an 'automatic' sports car, which I assure the DCT is far from. For the level of driver that you are *otherwise this wouldn't be a question, and the places that you will go, you are most likely dealing less with performance and more with feeling, you'll need to decide which feels better and which package is more enjoyable to drive for you. For some it is rowing through the gears, for others it's downshifting the DCT just to hear the revs pop.

08-25-2011, 11:41 AM	#14
CSanto Major Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York Posts: 1,362 iTrader: (1)	26k miles..and getting a little bored of DCT

08-25-2011, 01:14 PM	#16
lenzm3edan First Pride Drives: E90, Mercedes ML 350, subi Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 987 iTrader: (6)	6spd for real drivers, DCT for chumps.

08-25-2011, 03:16 PM	#21
F1 fan Private Drives: 08 e92 m3 Join Date: May 2007 Location: OHIO Posts: 59 iTrader: (0)	I wasn't looking for a perfect answer. I was just curious if anyone has gone from one to the other and what their experience was. When I watch videos on you tube I am just amazed at how quick the dct shifts. I almost wish it wasn't able to be a automatic at all and you had to shift manually all of the time. That way you couldn't get lazy and put in drive an go.

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