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      08-26-2011, 10:10 PM   #23
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This is purely a cover-your-ass legal move so they bear no responsibility for anything related to a state inspection. In reality, the only "plumbing mod" that will cause you to fail a state inspection is modification or deletion of the PRIMARY catalytic converters.

An aftermarket intake is just some tubing with a different filter. The tubing isn't going to make any difference as long it retains the proper position of the MAF sensor and/or crankcase ventilation tube if applicable. The overall length of the intake path on the M3 is fairly short so all these claims of so-called "bigger" or "smoother" tubes amounts to nothing. You can get the same result by just popping in an aftermarket filter. In fact if you are so concerned, go on K&N's website and it specifically states that the filter is 50 state emissions legal and will not void your warranty. It'll be good for a few hp and cost $65. Of course it won't look as pretty as the 10 inches of carbon fiber of your $1000 Dinan intake that you get to see all those times that you put your hood up.
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      08-26-2011, 10:37 PM   #24
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There is no regulation on a charcoal filter-heck some bmw's dont even have them but especially in europe it is just an extra way to cut down CO2 measured emissions that much more so they can advertise lower co2 numbers

Not everything is done due to regulations since a lot is advertising and sales being able to say your CO2 level is below XYZ.
I think we are discussing the implications on state emissions tests, not actual emissions from all sources.
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I think we are discussing the implications on state emissions tests, not actual emissions from all sources.
The Dinan comment on the intake is probably addressing some requirement from the communist state called California...I kid about the communist comment
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The Dinan comment on the intake is probably addressing some requirement from the communist state called California...I kid about the communist comment

It has nothing to do with California, Germany, Russia, Tea Party or the Moon. Because it has nothing to do with emissions.
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      08-27-2011, 03:54 PM   #27
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It has nothing to do with California, Germany, Russia, Tea Party or the Moon. Because it has nothing to do with emissions.
Okay...then why the disclaimer?
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Okay...then why the disclaimer?

Dinans disclaimer? Then its incorrect.


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I just looked at the Dinan website, and the disclaimer for air filter is no longer there. Only x-pipe has a disclaimer.http://www.dinancars.com/shop/R660-0...M3.aspx#page=1
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      08-27-2011, 11:43 PM   #29
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Still there...at least for the E90.
No its not.


http://www.dinancars.com/shop/D760-0...ke.aspx#page=1
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Probably correct. Isn't the filter covered by a big black plastic cover anyway? The only give away is the "D" that is embossed on the tube.

BTW...I was just havin' a little fun with my favorite Southpark episode. Not meant to hurt anyone's feelings.
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I'm still awaiting response from Dinan...
I am thinking along the same lines of liability for the vehicle warranted being race only. Keep me posted.

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Have you driven your car over 4500 rpm yet? If so, what are your comments on your mods now that you have gotten into the power band?
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I am thinking along the same lines of liability for the vehicle warranted being race only. Keep me posted.

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Michael. See my response from Dinan in post 24. I'm going ahead with an intake, software and exhaust. Might do them in stages to see if I can perceive any differences from each. How's yours holding up? Past 1200mi yet?
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amazing to see how these tuni companies rope you in for absolutely no gains but a super high price of thousands and thousands of dollars. You are going to spend over 5k for a "tune" exhaust and intake for absolutely no true gains. Amazing the money people like to blow.

I am sure bmw wanted to stroke out a s65 to 4.4 litres and use a bunch of costly new parts to make 30 hp when they could have just used dinan "tune" intake and a cat delete to make the "40hp" people seem to think it gives them.

Enjoy the faster car from having a much lighter wallet!
I get the fact that you are much too clever to "blow money" on these mods but why criticize the people that do? Do you even have an M3?
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I think the ESS VT535 appears to be a good value. 460 rwhp on 91 for $8500. More with mods. I probably would not buy a titanium exhaust for $5000 to make 25 rwhp, though I might buy a stainless exhaust for half that or less. I am watching the Vishnu meth kit development since these high compression motors seem to make the best power when fed the highest octane.
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The intake says "Race Only" because it is not C.A.R.B. approved. Not a big deal you would still pass smog and should have no problem passing an inspection as well.
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I get the fact that you are much too clever to "blow money" on these mods but why criticize the people that do? Do you even have an M3?
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amazing to see how these tuni companies rope you in for absolutely no gains but a super high price of thousands and thousands of dollars. You are going to spend over 5k for a "tune" exhaust and intake for absolutely no true gains. Amazing the money people like to blow.

I am sure bmw wanted to stroke out a s65 to 4.4 litres and use a bunch of costly new parts to make 30 hp when they could have just used dinan "tune" intake and a cat delete to make the "40hp" people seem to think it gives them.

Enjoy the faster car from having a much lighter wallet!
I'm not here to justify my mods to you or anyone else on the forums. Some people mod for max power. Some people mod for fun. Some people mod for show. Or some combination of all of the above. You can decide for yourself your own reasons for modding and enjoy them for what they are. I am not looking to squeeze 500+ rwhp or 600+ rwhp out of my family daily driver.
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Oh yeah, 15% off almost all Dinan stuff until October 31st! Happy modding everyone.
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The GTS is the perfect example. BMW wanted 30 more horsepower. BMW is in the business to make money. They did not have to go to the work of stroking out and tuning a new 4.4 litre gts engine if they could have "tuned" the stock engine and added some intake mods and exhaust mods for a fraction of the cost and still made 30 hp.
People can spend money on whatever they like. They're not hurting anything but their personal finances. It's their business.
This point that's quoted above is compelling as hell though.
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I have the same Dinan Upgrades

Hey M Ryder and anyone else with these Dinan upgrades.


I have these exact 4 Dinan upgrades. Dinan Exhaust, Dinan Carbon Fiber Intake, Dinan Performance Software, Dinan Pulley Kit, How do you feel it compares to a stock M3. I really feel it is a different car in how it accelerates in a subtle way. Does it feel like an additional 45 HP?

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Michael. See my response from Dinan in post 24. I'm going ahead with an intake, software and exhaust. Might do them in stages to see if I can perceive any differences from each. How's yours holding up? Past 1200mi yet?

Yes I am past 1200 and did the 4 Dinan Mods. It just feels and sounds great. I think in the end the Free flow Dinan Mod is the same as a K/N filter but I wanted to stay with the Dinan mods for warranty purposes.
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Hey M Ryder and anyone else with these Dinan upgrades.


I have these exact 4 Dinan upgrades. Dinan Exhaust, Dinan Carbon Fiber Intake, Dinan Performance Software, Dinan Pulley Kit, How do you feel it compares to a stock M3. I really feel it is a different car in how it accelerates in a subtle way. Does it feel like an additional 45 HP?

Look forward to your response
Congrats on the mods.....as far as your question regarding the difference, I would say there's a very noticeable one. You really notice it above the 4500 RPM range. I drove a couple of different cars prior to taking delivery and I couldn't wait to take delivery. I had everything done prior to picking up the car except the pulley. My next round of mods will be cosmetic and track focused...............Phil
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