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      08-30-2011, 01:54 PM   #1
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Thumbs up BMW E92 M3 Reigns Over C63 AMG Coupe in Latest Reviews

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BMW E92 M3 Reigns Over C63 AMG Coupe in Latest Reviews
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Some say the BMW M3 is beginning to show its age, especially considering the all-new F30 3-series has already been spotted in testing. As far as performance is concerned however, the E92 M3 coupe continues to impress and dispose of even recently introduced competition, such as the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Coupe. Many pegged the C63 AMG coupe to give the M3 a run for its money, if not overtake it. Remarkably however, both AMS and Autobild recently ran comparisons between the two super coupes and came to the same conclusion: The M3 still is the better car.

Per Autobild, the "M3 won as it's sportier and produces more fun", or as AMS puts it, "afterall it's the level of maturity which makes the M3 the better car".

AMS and Autobild didn't came to the same conclusion regarding ride comfort however. While AMS considered the M3 more compliant, Autobild had it the other way around. We assume that the mags received different C63 models to evaluate.

We've translated the most interesting quotes for you below and included some photos and a video from Autobild in German. Head over to AMS and Autobild for the full reviews in German.



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While the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Coupe is able to put the power down as long as the roads are smooth, its suspension and traction aren't up to the task on lesser roads. Experienced drivers avoid the fun-killing traction control from interfering by switch to ESP Sport Mode and handling the tail-happy behavior manually. Approach the next turn quickly and there's too much understeer while the heavy engine shows during slalom performance. The heavy sunroof surely doesn't help in that regard either.


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No matter what task the BMW M3 Coupe is given it's more agile. The slalom performance is effortless, the turn-in crisp and direct while providing good feedback. Its standard limited slip differential allows the M3 to put the power down perfectly. The engine seemingly revs without friction and makes up for the power disadvantage by delivering explosively - while producing an amazing race car noise. A perfect match is the double clutch transmission and its menacingly-fast gear changes in manual mode.

Despite its similarity to a race engine, the 4.0l V8 now even has an auto start/stop system and consumes less than the C63 Coupe: roughly half a litre less per 100km.



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A comparison on country roads shows: A slightly worse driver in the M3 can keep up with the Merc driven by an expert driver. Make both change cars and the M3 pulls away -- despite being the older car as the lack of certain driving assist features shows. After all it's the level of maturity which makes the M3 the better car.


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1. BMW E92 M3 ZCP - 499 points

Being more comfortable yet better performing is rare - but the M3 does the trick due to its adaptive suspension [meant: dampers]. It also consumes less fuel, is cheaper, and offers more space.


2. Mercedes-Benz C63 Coupé Performance-Paket - 471 points

The AMG rides firm without producing any handling benefit. The C63 Coupe is too heavy, too uncomfortable, and too nose-heavy - its straight line performance however is mind-boggling.



Autobild Review


http://www.bild.de/auto/auto-news/me...3252.bild.html

Watch the video (German): http://www.autobild.de/videos/video-...3-1877251.html




E92 M3: 420PS - 400 Nm - 4.5 s - 12.8l/100km

C63 AMG: 457PS - 600 Nm - 4.6 s - 13.0l/100km


"The trick is to offer enough torque down in the rev range, yet providing peak power at very high engine speeds. The M3 engine does an excellent job at this. It's the perfect car for the race track and way better than the C63 AMG Coupe in that regard. Seating position is a bit high. There's no understeer at turn-in, and this is great. The engine loves to rev and is very responsive. However, the M3 is less suitable for daily use compared to the C63 AMG.

The C63 AMG has 50% more displacement. Its long stroke engine makes it hard to be rev-happy. It's one of the last naturally aspirated engines Mercedes-Benz offers. The C63 is easier to drive. It shows more understeer while the steering is softer and less precise than the M3's. It's meant for the streets not the race track. There's more body roll and the lack of adaptive suspension required a compromise. The automatic transmission in the C63 works well, but the double clutch transmission of the M3 is faster.
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Afterall the M3 won as it's sportier and makes more fun. They considered the Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Coupe to be a tad better for daily use as it's the generally less demanding, more compliant, car.



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Hehehe....once again, M > massive amounts of power.
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Awesome!

The Merc is cool but the M3 is better looking
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I wouldn't have thought the M3 to last this long with the onslaught of all these new models coming, what witchcraft has BMW done to this car? I just can't wait to see what the F30/32 M3 is going to bring if this one is still holding on.
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The M3 is a great car, but it is close to the end of the line and the present model can't continue into the future due to it's fuel consumption. Looking forward to a tri turbo or whatever. I will not be worried about the sound of the motor. All I care about is the performance. Besides, it's not hard to get used to the growl of a turbocharger.
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The C63 coupes interior is gorgeous though! Especially the red/black!
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lol again?? bmw wont have to change the car.. imagine what the new one will do..
god i hope some day i can afford the V8.. maybe when the new one comes out this will be cheaper..
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///M still king? Wow, BMW must have some magical formula.
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Go M3!

And FG with satin black 359M does look particularly hot in those pics.
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The E92 M3 is still a masterpiece!
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I wonder what the Audi people must be thinking with the still unreleased RS5 coming to the USA who knows when. (IF ever????)
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Not really a surprise,just take a good look at the 4dr c63 vs m3 shootouts..Was the coupe going to be much different with 2 doors instead of 4?
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Not really a surprise,just take a good look at the 4dr c63 vs m3 shootouts..Was the coupe going to be much different with 2 doors instead of 4?
Actually it is, because after the M3 vs C63 AMG sedan comparisons, MB was supposed to make changes to the upcoming coupe that would allow it to beat the M3.

The fact that the M3 still reigns after that is *extremely* surprising (and good news!).
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poor poor AMG

new M5 gonna romp over the E63 too
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