Any chance of a Connection between ford 6MT Getrag and our 6MT?

TX · 08-09-2011, 01:53 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/...transmissions/

basically -> "NHTSA Investigating Complaints About Chinese-Made Ford Mustang Getrag Transmissions"

Edit, I did some research and see the mustang transmission in question was the MT82, where we run the gs6-53bz so maybe this is a bogus assumption. Still rather interesting when the main issue reported for that transmission is a grinding/crunch into 2nd, 3rd gear and trouble selecting reverse. Seems a very common issue here with our getrag units. Maybe just a coincidence?

Earlier post:
I just came across this and I must admit I didn't spend any time to even see which getrag 6MT ford uses, but the article mentions the same exact problems I am having with my M3 Getrag 6MT which BMW declines to admit is a problem. Heavy grinding on 2nd and 3rd gears and unable to select reverse without a lot of force or rolling the car forward first. Seems a little odd.
Any chance our getrag is included in this mess with defective chinese parts?
-TX.

Krozi · 08-09-2011, 06:44 AM

While I agree that our transmissions can be a bit bitchy at times...I'm not having the issues to the extent you're expiriencing them. Reverse is easy to engage, and in 16,000 miles, I've only experienced the 1-2 grind once and that was after driving on the highway for 2 hours. 2-3 isn't an issue either.

Maybe you should consider taking your car to the dealer if you're experiencing these issues on a regular basis.

Chrisb1231 · 08-09-2011, 08:26 AM

My cousin had a 2011 mustang and his transmission was so much worst than any m3 story I heard. He would put the clutch to the floor put it in first give it some gas and the car would start moving.

Gearhead999s · 08-09-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrisb1231

My cousin had a 2011 mustang and his transmission was so much worst than any m3 story I heard. He would put the clutch to the floor put it in first give it some gas and the car would start moving.

That is the clutch not the transmission that is the problem!

Mr. ///M3 RD · 08-09-2011, 08:57 AM

I have no issues whatsoever with my MT

Chrisb1231 · 08-09-2011, 10:44 AM

Lol ur very right. I was barely awake when I wrote that. He also had issues getting it into gear and started skipping 2nd out of habit because the car would never go into it.

He traded it in for a loss of a grand and bought a Mazda speed 3. The dealer that bought the car is trying to sell it for more than he paid for it in the first place (brand new).

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Originally Posted by Chrisb1231

My cousin had a 2011 mustang and his transmission was so much worst than any m3 story I heard. He would put the clutch to the floor put it in first give it some gas and the car would start moving.

That is the clutch not the transmission that is the problem!

stefan · 08-09-2011, 11:11 AM

I believe these are the same Chinese-made MT-82 transmissions. However, what I have heard is BMW employs a revised / beefed up 1-2 syncro and various other enhancements (that are apparently not cheap). So there are likely very little by way of problems in common with the Mustang and M3.

TX · 08-10-2011, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by stefan

I believe these are the same Chinese-made MT-82 transmissions. However, what I have heard is BMW employs a revised / beefed up 1-2 syncro and various other enhancements (that are apparently not cheap). So there are likely very little by way of problems in common with the Mustang and M3.

Thanks, yes this seems to be the case and it looks like the only thing we share between the M3 and the Mustang 6 speed is the name "getrag" stamped on the housing.
A non-issue and unrelated to my issues it seems.
Cheers,
X

08-09-2011, 01:53 AM	#1
TX Second Lieutenant Drives: 2009 ///M3 E92 APW 6MT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 298 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [0.00]	http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/...transmissions/ basically -> "NHTSA Investigating Complaints About Chinese-Made Ford Mustang Getrag Transmissions" Edit, I did some research and see the mustang transmission in question was the MT82, where we run the gs6-53bz so maybe this is a bogus assumption. Still rather interesting when the main issue reported for that transmission is a grinding/crunch into 2nd, 3rd gear and trouble selecting reverse. Seems a very common issue here with our getrag units. Maybe just a coincidence? Earlier post: I just came across this and I must admit I didn't spend any time to even see which getrag 6MT ford uses, but the article mentions the same exact problems I am having with my M3 Getrag 6MT which BMW declines to admit is a problem. Heavy grinding on 2nd and 3rd gears and unable to select reverse without a lot of force or rolling the car forward first. Seems a little odd. Any chance our getrag is included in this mess with defective chinese parts? -TX. Last edited by TX; 08-09-2011 at 05:13 AM.
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Chrisb1231 Private First Class Drives: 2007 335i E90 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CT Posts: 118 iTrader: (0)	My cousin had a 2011 mustang and his transmission was so much worst than any m3 story I heard. He would put the clutch to the floor put it in first give it some gas and the car would start moving.
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