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      08-08-2011, 12:27 PM   #1
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Eibach on e93 - Input needed

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Im thinking of lowering my car on Eibach springs(possibly the KW sleeves) since the car rides so damn high(especially in the front). Just fyi, Im doing this strictly based on asthetic purposes. I have EDC on my car as well and running the Contis. As stated, my main goal is to reduce the "gap".

Wanted to see if anyone had any input on the following:

- In terms of ride quality, is it safe to assume that the ride quality on the OEM sport mode would be equilvant to the softest ride quality on the Eibach?

- If i want to bring the car back to OEM later on, what advice you guys give in terms of things to mod on the suspension, i.e. bump stops, etc.

Thanks for your help in advance.
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Eibachs ride real soft but don't really lower much...
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- In terms of ride quality, is it safe to assume that the ride quality on the OEM sport mode would be equilvant to the softest ride quality on the Eibach?

- If i want to bring the car back to OEM later on, what advice you guys give in terms of things to mod on the suspension, i.e. bump stops, etc.

Thanks for your help in advance.

1. No, the ride is bouncier. I did NOT like Eibachs.

2. Not sure what you mean here.
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I have eibachs on my 2011 E93 and the ride is as comfortable as stock yet less body roll when driven aggressively and most definitely and noticeably lowered the car. I did not change bump stops.
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I have eibachs on my 2011 E93 and the ride is as comfortable as stock yet less body roll when driven aggressively and most definitely and noticeably lowered the car. I did not change bump stops.
Pole,
You just have Eibach Pro springs and no other suspension mods correct? Where can I see more pics of your drop?
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I have eibachs on my 2011 E93 and the ride is as comfortable as stock yet less body roll when driven aggressively and most definitely and noticeably lowered the car. I did not change bump stops.

Do you have problems going over dips are hard bumps?
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Do you have problems going over dips are hard bumps?
No problems over dips or hard bumps..car hasn't bottomed out yet or anything like that. Not really even that jarring. What bothers me is rattles when driving over poor/rough pavement. It's not so much that it feels all that harsh or rough, just hate the rattling sounds.
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Do you have problems going over dips are hard bumps?
I have no problems going over dips or hard bumps. Hard bumps don't feel great with 20's but the tradeoff is worth it to me. Handles awesome and looks great. No rattles in my car.
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I have no problems going over dips or hard bumps. Hard bumps don't feel great with 20's but the tradeoff is worth it to me. Handles awesome and looks great. No rattles in my car.
Plus the rattles were more over the first several days (esp with top down and windows up). They are much better, now minimal. Either I'm getting used to it or just needed to break in springs a bit. I agree w/ above..well worth the tradeoff. Looks much better and do feel handling and steering feel improved.
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1. No, the ride is bouncier. I did NOT like Eibachs.

2. Not sure what you mean here.
Explain.

Everyone says the ride gets "bouncier" on aftermarket springs. I've read that a lot for H&Rs too.
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Very happy with my Eibachs. They lower the tall front end nicely and feel about the same as "normal" mode on stock springs.
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Explain.

Everyone says the ride gets "bouncier" on aftermarket springs. I've read that a lot for H&Rs too.
I installed Eibach springs/E36 M3 bumpstops about two weeks ago and I love how it looks. The problem I have is the ride is not nearly as composed as the stock suspension, especially over rough road surfaces. I feel the stock strut dampening doesn't match up real well with the Eibach spring rates, because of this you get a bit of bounce. I am going to remove the Eibach springs and reinstall my stock springs this weekend. I think the only way you are going to improve upon what the M-division created is possibly coilovers.
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I installed Eibach springs/E36 M3 bumpstops about two weeks ago and I love how it looks. The problem I have is the ride is not nearly as composed as the stock suspension, especially over rough road surfaces. I feel the stock strut dampening doesn't match up real well with the Eibach spring rates, because of this you get a bit of bounce. I am going to remove the Eibach springs and reinstall my stock springs this weekend. I think the only way you are going to improve upon what the M-division created is possibly coilovers.
I wonder how the kw sleeve kit is in this regard.
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Can anyone comment on this? If the KW sleeve kit doesn't behave like this I'm going with those over Eibachs.
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I have eibachs on my 2011 E93 and the ride is as comfortable as stock yet less body roll when driven aggressively and most definitely and noticeably lowered the car. I did not change bump stops.
I agree. I have Eibach springs installed about 3 months ago and I love the way the car looks and the ride is almost the same as stock and I haven't notice any noises with Eibach (and trust me, I am a very detailed person). I didn't bother to change the bump stops neither. I have electronic dampening control also and all 3 settings work well. Haven't noticed tires bumped into the wheelwell cover even going over some bumps on the road. The car's handling is same as before or may be better but definitely not worse than original. With Eibach, the M3 seems to handle high speed curvy roads better comparing to with stock springs. I hesitated about getting the Eibach installed after reading mixed reviews/opinions but I am glad that I went ahead and got them installed.

BUT.....I noticed that after lowering the car, the low beam bixenon headlight is aiming very high. I double checked the bixenon level sensor on driver side and it seems to be properly hooked up. I manually adjusted the headlight myself by turning the knob on top of the headlight housing (my M3 is the coupe). Not sure if anyone notice this issue or if anyone else has this issue.

Will post some before and after pics later when I get a chance.

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I have eibachs on my 2011 E93 and the ride is as comfortable as stock yet less body roll when driven aggressively and most definitely and noticeably lowered the car. I did not change bump stops.
I agree. I have Eibach springs installed about 3 months ago and I love the way the car looks and the ride is almost the same as stock and I haven't notice any noises with Eibach (and trust me, I am a very detailed person). I didn't bother to change the bump stops neither. I have electronic dampening control also and all 3 settings work well. Haven't noticed tires bumped into the wheelwell cover even going over some bumps on the road. The car's handling is same as before or may be better but definitely not worse than original. With Eibach, the M3 seems to handle high speed curvy roads better comparing to with stock springs. I hesitated about getting the Eibach installed after reading mixed reviews/opinions but I am glad that I went ahead and got them installed.

BUT.....I noticed that after lowering the car, the low beam bixenon headlight is aiming very high. I double checked the bixenon level sensor on driver side and it seems to be properly hooked up. I manually adjusted the headlight myself by turning the knob on top of the headlight housing (my M3 is the coupe). Not sure if anyone notice this issue or if anyone else has this issue.

Will post some before and after pics later when I get a chance.

Hmm that's weird. I am experiencing the opposite. After installing eibach, my headlights appear to be aiming low. I'd like to correct this but I'm not sure where the knobs are.
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Hmm that's weird. I am experiencing the opposite. After installing eibach, my headlights appear to be aiming low. I'd like to correct this but I'm not sure where the knobs are.
This should help:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=407422

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Hmm that's weird. I am experiencing the opposite. After installing eibach, my headlights appear to be aiming low. I'd like to correct this but I'm not sure where the knobs are.
This should help:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=407422

You are the man suprafrank. Thanks! I was too lazy to do a search lol
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You are the man suprafrank. Thanks! I was too lazy to do a search lol
You are welcome.

Also check this and make sure the sensor arm is properly hooked up:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=507566


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I agree. I have Eibach springs installed about 3 months ago and I love the way the car looks and the ride is almost the same as stock and I haven't notice any noises with Eibach (and trust me, I am a very detailed person). I didn't bother to change the bump stops neither. I have electronic dampening control also and all 3 settings work well. Haven't noticed tires bumped into the wheelwell cover even going over some bumps on the road. The car's handling is same as before or may be better but definitely not worse than original. With Eibach, the M3 seems to handle high speed curvy roads better comparing to with stock springs. I hesitated about getting the Eibach installed after reading mixed reviews/opinions but I am glad that I went ahead and got them installed.

BUT.....I noticed that after lowering the car, the low beam bixenon headlight is aiming very high. I double checked the bixenon level sensor on driver side and it seems to be properly hooked up. I manually adjusted the headlight myself by turning the knob on top of the headlight housing (my M3 is the coupe). Not sure if anyone notice this issue or if anyone else has this issue.

Will post some before and after pics later when I get a chance.
Pics:
with stock springs:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/album.p...ictureid=37779

with Eibach springs:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/album.p...ictureid=37778

Eibach springs withe Avant Garde M355 (new M5 style wheels):
http://www.m3post.com/forums/album.p...ictureid=37780
http://www.m3post.com/forums/album.p...ictureid=37781

Hope the pics are helpful.

By the way, I just found the following post that addresses a way to correct the bixenon headlight aiming too high problem:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389548

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