Active Steering

E36325is · 04-12-2007, 10:37 AM

Will E92 have active steering available as an option?

m_bazeepaymon · 04-12-2007, 10:41 AM

i think it will be standard?

gIzzE · 04-12-2007, 11:26 AM

No way in the world will that bag of nuts be standard!!

E36325is · 04-12-2007, 12:05 PM

Yeah I hope it will be just an option or at least deletable by buyer...

southlight · 04-12-2007, 01:44 PM

No active steering! EPS with servotronic is standard...

Best regards, south

Hotan Braskey · 04-12-2007, 02:20 PM

I would hope not. The press release doesn't mention it, only being able to choose between two different steering quickness settings in the MDrive menu.

dan6470 · 04-12-2007, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

No active steering! EPS with servotronic is standard...

Best regards, south

whats the difference

:

monsta · 04-12-2007, 08:32 PM

nope won't be or at least hope not...

GregW / Oregon · 04-12-2007, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan6470

whats the difference

:

Active Steering varies the ratio with speed (more responsive at low speeds) with an electric motor and a set of supplementary gears.

http://www.bmwusa.com/LeadGenBYO/Aut...e=217&level=01

Some don't like it, some do. Electric Power steering is powered by, obviously, an electric motor instead of hydraulic pressure, but only varies effort, not ratio, I believe. There will be an M Mode setting for a sportier setting. Not sure on the details.

cntlaw · 04-12-2007, 09:49 PM

Whatever we want to call it, it is still a steerimg designed specifically for M3 I don't quite see the reason why regular 3er elements would go to a prestigious Motosport design?

I have big faith to Motosports engineers.

The new M3 is going to be very different.

skierman64 · 04-12-2007, 09:51 PM

No active steering on the M3

E36325is · 04-13-2007, 09:55 AM

Electric power steering pump is great, I don't think it will degrade steering feel like active steering, and it saves a couple of valuable hp, too.....

It shows how much faith bimmer got for their active steering system, hope they can continue to focus on the essentials and not on gadgets like active this and passive that...

M3_2010 · 04-13-2007, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E36325is

Will E92 have active steering available as an option?

It was pretty bad in my 545i sport..... I hope they fixed it. I know they are used in Porsche 911s...

gIzzE · 04-13-2007, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3_2010

It was pretty bad in my 545i sport..... I hope they fixed it. I know they are used in Porsche 911s...

Have a look at this thread would you???

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56004

They insist you can't tell the difference between a car with or without!!
So why pay $1400 for it then!!!

GregW / Oregon · 04-13-2007, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E36325is

Electric power steering pump is great, I don't think it will degrade steering feel like active steering, and it saves a couple of valuable hp, too.....

I beleive the BMW system uses sensors to detect the motion and torque of the steering column and a computer module applies assistive power via an electric motor. Itr's not just an electrically-powered hydraulic pump. This allows varying amounts of assistance to be applied depending on driving conditions. A switch or program can switch between different assist curves (boost curve) or like on Audis, Volkswagens & the BMW Z4, the amount of assistance is automatically regulated depending on vehicle speed. BMW makes reference to varying steering response be programmable with the MMode settings.

cntlaw · 04-13-2007, 12:16 PM

he has already ordered the M3 , why bother to discuss

esquire · 04-13-2007, 04:16 PM

language directly from the press kit @ page 10:

"The optionally available MDrive configuration enables the driver to pre-select the response of the Servotronic power sterring. In the process, MDrive is able to follow two ocntrol maps varying steering forces between the Normal and Sports settings as a function of road speed"

a little different than active steering, but in end-effect achieves a very similar goal.

E36325is · 04-13-2007, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esquire

language directly from the press kit @ page 10:

"The optionally available MDrive configuration enables the driver to pre-select the response of the Servotronic power sterring. In the process, MDrive is able to follow two ocntrol maps varying steering forces between the Normal and Sports settings as a function of road speed"

a little different than active steering, but in end-effect achieves a very similar goal.

As long as it only changes the steering effort and not the steering ratio then I am happy.

04-12-2007, 10:37 AM	#1
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E36325is Second Lieutenant Drives: 1M coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 218 iTrader: (0)	Yeah I hope it will be just an option or at least deletable by buyer...

04-12-2007, 01:44 PM	#5
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E36325is Second Lieutenant Drives: 1M coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 218 iTrader: (0)	Electric power steering pump is great, I don't think it will degrade steering feel like active steering, and it saves a couple of valuable hp, too..... It shows how much faith bimmer got for their active steering system, hope they can continue to focus on the essentials and not on gadgets like active this and passive that...

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esquire Colonel Drives: 2011.5 Dakar Yellow M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 2,435 iTrader: (0)	language directly from the press kit @ page 10: "The optionally available MDrive configuration enables the driver to pre-select the response of the Servotronic power sterring. In the process, MDrive is able to follow two ocntrol maps varying steering forces between the Normal and Sports settings as a function of road speed" a little different than active steering, but in end-effect achieves a very similar goal. __________________ [ESS VT2-625] [Akrapovic Evolution Exhaust] [KW Clubsports] [OSS Angel Eyes] [Revinora r-CRT Lip] [Vorsteiner Boot] [Challenge Race Diffuser] [See the Build Thread HERE]

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