ESS VT3 Supercharger - Low Compression M3 S65 Engine Build Has Begun... - Page 31

huyner328 · 05-11-2012, 11:58 AM

Good lawd that is incredible.

DLSJ5 · 05-11-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by huyner328

Good lawd that is incredible.

, appreciate that!

biglare · 05-11-2012, 02:04 PM

Nice numbers on the dyno!

These are fact and thank you for posting up! Looking forward to seeing your car in some serious action very soon!

DLSJ5 · 05-11-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by biglare

Nice numbers on the dyno!

These are fact and thank you for posting up! Looking forward to seeing your car in some serious action very soon!

Thanks Larry, you going to the event June 9th?

mikewads · 05-11-2012, 05:47 PM

Hey Drew. Just saw your videos on YouTube! I'm glad to see you back on the road! I know your having a blast! I'll be on the look out for more of your videos.

Congrats to ESS for steping up and building the VT3-725! Great job!

DLSJ5 · 05-12-2012, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mikewads

Hey Drew. Just saw your videos on YouTube! I'm glad to see you back on the road! I know your having a blast! I'll be on the look out for more of your videos.

Congrats to ESS for steping up and building the VT3-725! Great job!

Mike, really appreciate that Broski, glad to see you still posting here! I'll get more #'s and vids soon.

DLSJ5 · 05-12-2012, 05:12 PM

Here's dyno #'s and some data on the car. Big thanks to Robert for putting this data all together for me.

Car and Modifications:

Control Baseline:
2008 BMW M3

ESS VT2-625 @ 7.15 PSI

Both CAT Delete

Gintani Crosspipe

DCT

95 Octane

Changes Since Baseline:
ESS VT3-725 @ 11.75 PSI

ESS Crosspipe

91 Octane

Conditions:

Control Baseline:
Temparature: 85.50 degrees F

Atmospheric pressure: 28.81 inHg

Humidity: 28.2%

Density Altitude: 4300 Ft.

SAE Correction: 1.041

STD Correction: 1.070

Uncorrected: 1.000

Changes Since Baseline:
Temparature:: 79.59 degrees F

Atmospheric pressure: 29.07 inHg

Humidity: 35%

Density Altitude: 3639 Ft.

SAE Correction: 1.024

STD Correction: 1.052

Uncorrected: 1.000

Results:

Control Baseline (-Meth):
SAE Corrected: 558whp @ 8340 RPM, 375wtq @ 7475 RPM

STD Corrected: 568whp, 381wtq

Uncorrected: 539whp, 362wtq

Control Baseline (+Meth):
SAE Corrected: 586whp @ 8325 RPM, 379wtq @ 7430 RPM

STD Corrected: 597whp, 387wtq

Uncorrected: 569whp, 368wtq

Changes Since Baseline (-Meth):
SAE Corrected: 613whp @ 8110 RPM, 413wtq @ 7330 RPM

STD Corrected: 625whp, 421wtq

Uncorrected: 599whp, 404wtq

Changes Since Baseline (+Meth):
SAE Corrected: 616whp @ 8140 RPM, 422wtq @ 7480 RPM

STD Corrected: 629whp, 431wtq

Uncorrected: 602whp, 412wtq

Dyno Database:

Without Meth:
Dyno files are available from the links below.

SAE
Corrected,
Baseline

STD
Corrected,
Baseline

Uncorrected,
Baseline

With Meth:
Dyno files are available from the links below.

SAE
Corrected,
Baseline

STD
Corrected,
Baseline

Uncorrected,
Baseline

...
Graphs (With Meth):

Dyno Charts (SAE Corrected, +Meth):

Dyno Charts +AFR, Boost

HP& TQ Comparison:

Dyno Charts (STD Corrected, +Meth):

Dyno Charts (Uncorrected, +Meth):

Graphs (Without Meth):

Dyno Charts (SAE Corrected, -Meth):

Dyno Charts +AFR, IAT, Boost

HP& TQ Comparison:

Dyno Charts (STD Corrected, -Meth):

Dyno Charts (Uncorrected, -Meth):

Boost Analysis:

IAT Analysis:

DLSJ5 · 05-12-2012, 05:13 PM

Here's a comparo of No Meth vs Meth, there is a 10-20whp gain up until 7800 RPM's, after that it's in the 5-10 range.

Comparison: +Meth, -Meth (SAE Corrected):

Comparison: +Meth, -Meth (STD Corrected):

the infamous... · 05-12-2012, 06:20 PM

GAWD DAYUM!! :allhailDLSJ5: great #s boss!

DLSJ5 · 05-13-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by the infamous...

GAWD DAYUM!! :allhailDLSJ5: great #s boss!

Haha thanks man.

Keik E92 M3 · 05-13-2012, 05:58 PM

Beast Mode! Must be hella fun to drive.

GOLFFRR · 05-13-2012, 06:30 PM

E90///M3` · 05-13-2012, 07:16 PM

congrats Drew... is there a possibility of increasing boost beyond this current setting since the motor is built? >=)... mo powah! hahaha

Roman@ESS · 05-13-2012, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by E90///M3`

congrats Drew... is there a possibility of increasing boost beyond this current setting since the motor is built? >=)... mo powah! hahaha

The motor and fuel system will easily handle more boost. The limiting factor at this point is the stock DCT transmission. We set the power where we felt the tranny could handle. We simply do not know it's limits at this point so we will have to see how it holds up.

E90///M3` · 05-13-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

The motor and fuel system will easily handle more boost. The limiting factor at this point is the stock DCT transmission. We set the power where we felt the tranny could handle. We simply do not know it's limits at this point so we will have to see how it holds up.

i figured that would be the only weak link at this point... good to know, thanks Roman!

DLSJ5 · 05-13-2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by keikdasneak

Beast Mode! Must be hella fun to drive.

Loving it!

DLSJ5 · 05-13-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by E90///M3`

i figured that would be the only weak link at this point... good to know, thanks Roman!

One step at a time J

, try not to focus too much on peak # comparisons, the car up to 7800 RPM's is making 50-70 more whp throughout, after that it's 30whp Meth vs. Meth, with No Meth vs No Meth, it's making 50-60+ all the way through vs the VT625 kit.

On my VT625 meth dyno there is a power spike right at redline that skews the differences a bit, and on the VT725 dyno, for some reason it drops a bit up top, on another dyno it did not do this, and made 644whp STD, but we wanted to use the same dyno for comparison purposes.

Either way our goal initially was 725 at the crank, and we've done that. I will get a SBS run with a VT600+ at the Shift-S3ctor event. Or possibly a run against the Arkym VT650 so you can really see the difference. Eventually, depending on the transmission, we may turn up the boost more.

M&M · 05-14-2012, 10:08 AM

Goddamit Drew, you my hero! I'm coming to the US in June, I wanna' hook up with you & talk some smack if you free.

E90///M3` · 05-14-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSJ5

One step at a time J

, try not to focus too much on peak # comparisons, the car up to 7800 RPM's is making 50-70 more whp throughout, after that it's 30whp Meth vs. Meth, with No Meth vs No Meth, it's making 50-60+ all the way through vs the VT625 kit.

On my VT625 meth dyno there is a power spike right at redline that skews the differences a bit, and on the VT725 dyno, for some reason it drops a bit up top, on another dyno it did not do this, and made 644whp STD, but we wanted to use the same dyno for comparison purposes.

Either way our goal initially was 725 at the crank, and we've done that. I will get a SBS run with a VT600+ at the Shift-S3ctor event. Or possibly a run against the Arkym VT650 so you can really see the difference. Eventually, depending on the transmission, we may turn up the boost more.

i hope i can make it to the SBS event... school has been hectic lately

DLSJ5 · 05-14-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by M&M

Goddamit Drew, you my hero! I'm coming to the US in June, I wanna' hook up with you & talk some smack if you free.

Haha, good to see you posting over here! For sure let me know when you're here.

Send over your Vbox run (see link below for email) and I'll put it on the list, congrats on a great time!

60-130 list info here - http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=630463

DLSJ5 · 05-14-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by E90///M3`

i hope i can make it to the SBS event... school has been hectic lately

Hope you can make it as well J.

m33 · 05-14-2012, 09:34 PM

what i find most impressive is that these figures are only at 11psi , i wonder how much izzy will put down since he's 6MT and if he can run more boost somewhere along the lines of 14psi ...... i wouldn't be surprised if 650+ whp is achieved.

Drew if and when you run the Arkym car run it with Meth off and on it would be awesome to see the difference

05-11-2012, 11:58 AM	#661
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05-11-2012, 02:04 PM	#663
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05-11-2012, 05:47 PM	#665
mikewads Lieutenant Drives: 2009 M3 Coupe DCT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 470 iTrader: (3)	Hey Drew. Just saw your videos on YouTube! I'm glad to see you back on the road! I know your having a blast! I'll be on the look out for more of your videos. Congrats to ESS for steping up and building the VT3-725! Great job! __________________ 2012 Blue Pearl GT-R 1068whp & 906wtq on E85 / 60 - 130 MPH in 3.8 secs 2009 BMW M3 ESS Supercharged / Nitrous - 10.87 @ 131 MPH / 60 - 130 MPH in 6.23 secs

05-12-2012, 05:12 PM	#667
DLSJ5 Colonel Drives: 08 E92 DCT M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,800 iTrader: (0)	Here's dyno #'s and some data on the car. Big thanks to Robert for putting this data all together for me. Car and Modifications: Control Baseline: 2008 BMW M3 ESS VT2-625 @ 7.15 PSI Both CAT Delete Gintani Crosspipe DCT 95 Octane Changes Since Baseline: ESS VT3-725 @ 11.75 PSI ESS Crosspipe 91 Octane Conditions: Control Baseline: Temparature: 85.50 degrees F Atmospheric pressure: 28.81 inHg Humidity: 28.2% Density Altitude: 4300 Ft. SAE Correction: 1.041 STD Correction: 1.070 Uncorrected: 1.000 Changes Since Baseline: Temparature:: 79.59 degrees F Atmospheric pressure: 29.07 inHg Humidity: 35% Density Altitude: 3639 Ft. SAE Correction: 1.024 STD Correction: 1.052 Uncorrected: 1.000 Results: Control Baseline (-Meth): SAE Corrected: 558whp @ 8340 RPM, 375wtq @ 7475 RPM STD Corrected: 568whp, 381wtq Uncorrected: 539whp, 362wtq Control Baseline (+Meth): SAE Corrected: 586whp @ 8325 RPM, 379wtq @ 7430 RPM STD Corrected: 597whp, 387wtq Uncorrected: 569whp, 368wtq Changes Since Baseline (-Meth): SAE Corrected: 613whp @ 8110 RPM, 413wtq @ 7330 RPM STD Corrected: 625whp, 421wtq Uncorrected: 599whp, 404wtq Changes Since Baseline (+Meth): SAE Corrected: 616whp @ 8140 RPM, 422wtq @ 7480 RPM STD Corrected: 629whp, 431wtq Uncorrected: 602whp, 412wtq Dyno Database: Without Meth: Dyno files are available from the links below. SAE Corrected, Baseline STD Corrected, Baseline Uncorrected, Baseline With Meth: Dyno files are available from the links below. SAE Corrected, Baseline STD Corrected, Baseline Uncorrected, Baseline ... Graphs (With Meth): Dyno Charts (SAE Corrected, +Meth): Dyno Charts +AFR, Boost HP& TQ Comparison: Dyno Charts (STD Corrected, +Meth): Dyno Charts (Uncorrected, +Meth): Graphs (Without Meth): Dyno Charts (SAE Corrected, -Meth): Dyno Charts +AFR, IAT, Boost HP& TQ Comparison: Dyno Charts (STD Corrected, -Meth): Dyno Charts (Uncorrected, -Meth): Boost Analysis: IAT Analysis: __________________ 08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ @ 7.2psi - 94 octane / Water meth ESS VT3-725 60-130MPH 6.64s - 620Whp/420Wtq@ 11psi ESS VT3-750 - 685Whp/466Wtq@13.5 psi SAE - 703WHP /478WTQ@13.5 psi STD Last edited by DLSJ5; 05-12-2012 at 05:34 PM.

05-12-2012, 05:13 PM	#668
DLSJ5 Colonel Drives: 08 E92 DCT M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,800 iTrader: (0)	Here's a comparo of No Meth vs Meth, there is a 10-20whp gain up until 7800 RPM's, after that it's in the 5-10 range. Comparison: +Meth, -Meth (SAE Corrected): Comparison: +Meth, -Meth (STD Corrected): __________________ 08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ @ 7.2psi - 94 octane / Water meth ESS VT3-725 60-130MPH 6.64s - 620Whp/420Wtq@ 11psi ESS VT3-750 - 685Whp/466Wtq@13.5 psi SAE - 703WHP /478WTQ@13.5 psi STD Last edited by DLSJ5; 05-12-2012 at 05:34 PM.

05-12-2012, 06:20 PM	#669
the infamous... Lieutenant General Drives: like I'M BOUT THAT LIFE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: PARADISE aka DAWNTOWN Posts: 16,889 iTrader: (0)	GAWD DAYUM!! :allhailDLSJ5: great #s boss! __________________ "simple is clean" -The ///ModFather [ iND ] - [ eAs ] - [ ACM ] - [ LTMW ] - [ AA ]

05-13-2012, 05:58 PM	#671
Keik E92 M3 Banned Drives: BMW M3 DCT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,400 iTrader: (6) Garage List 2009 BMW [4.50] 2011 BMW 335i [3.40]	Beast Mode! Must be hella fun to drive.

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05-14-2012, 10:08 AM	#678
M&M Captain Drives: E92 M3 Competition Pack Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 651 iTrader: (0)	Goddamit Drew, you my hero! I'm coming to the US in June, I wanna' hook up with you & talk some smack if you free.

05-14-2012, 09:34 PM	#682
m33 Banned Drives: E92 VT650 MCB Individual Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CT Posts: 2,676 iTrader: (5)	what i find most impressive is that these figures are only at 11psi , i wonder how much izzy will put down since he's 6MT and if he can run more boost somewhere along the lines of 14psi ...... i wouldn't be surprised if 650+ whp is achieved. Drew if and when you run the Arkym car run it with Meth off and on it would be awesome to see the difference

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