BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > General M3 Forum (E90 + E92 + E93)
 
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-04-2011, 12:30 AM   #1
turbomma
New Member
3
Rep
16
Posts

 
Drives: M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Arizona

iTrader: (0)

Will the new F30 BMW 335i be a e9x M3 killer?

There has been so much comparison between the current generation 335i vs M3, with some publications recommending the cheaper 335i due to the turbo engine's everyday flexibility.

I wonder how will the new F30 335i fare in comparison with the current generation M3. Its not uncommon for the BMW to up the performance of the regular models in the new series.

Its like comparing the E46 M3 versus the E9x 335i.

What do you guys think?
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 12:33 AM   #2
Crazy Bimmer
The Jesal
Crazy Bimmer's Avatar
United_States
143
Rep
5,830
Posts

 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chicago IL

iTrader: (19)

Garage List
2009 BMW M3  [0.00]
Send a message via AIM to Crazy Bimmer
Performance wise the e46 m3 still poops on the 335i. Same should hold true for the f30 335i vs e9x m3.

BMW wouldn't make a 3series a better drivers car than an M. Although they do come closer each generation.
__________________
2009 E90 M3 - SOLD
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 12:34 AM   #3
FVM3
Major General
FVM3's Avatar
115
Rep
5,739
Posts

 
Drives: e92 m3, f30 328i
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (2)

Does f30 335i get the n55?
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 12:34 AM   #4
SamS
Brigadier General
SamS's Avatar
61
Rep
4,579
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 ActiveHybrid 3
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by christopherchenm View Post
Does f30 335i get the n55?
Yes.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 12:38 AM   #5
cmk227
Major
cmk227's Avatar
United_States
20
Rep
1,333
Posts

 
Drives: Goal: ED on 2015 M6GC
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Irving, TX & Northern England

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbomma View Post
There has been so much comparison between the current generation 335i vs M3, with some publications recommending the cheaper 335i due to the turbo engine's everyday flexibility.

I wonder how will the new F30 335i fare in comparison with the current generation M3. Its not uncommon for the BMW to up the performance of the regular models in the new series.

Its like comparing the E46 M3 versus the E9x 335i.

What do you guys think?
It still not an ///M car. It nice and definitely has great power but not the same thing as owning an ///M. If people get offended , I am sorry.
__________________

14 Lexus GX460 & 14 Lexus ES300H
14 BMW 528d Touring Estate - UK
Previous M's: 11 BMW M3 JZB ZCP 6MT, 02 BMW M3 Conv 6MT & 02 BMW M3 Coupe 6MT
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 12:58 AM   #6
3XTR3M3
Lieutenant Colonel
3XTR3M3's Avatar
United_States
43
Rep
1,580
Posts

 
Drives: E92 AW M3 6MT
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: LA

iTrader: (1)

Rumor has it that the F30 gets a fuel pump that actually works.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 12:58 AM   #7
FVM3
Major General
FVM3's Avatar
115
Rep
5,739
Posts

 
Drives: e92 m3, f30 328i
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (2)

Straight line not sure yet but track i think m3 will get the champ
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 01:04 AM   #8
BMRLVR
Grease Monkey
BMRLVR's Avatar
Canada
39
Rep
2,332
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 E90 M3,1994 Euro E36 M3/4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by christopherchenm View Post
Does f30 335i get the n55?
I was reading the latest issue of Bimmer today. BMW's head of engine development for non M cars stated in an article that there will be new three and six-cylinder engines coming in the next 3 years based off of the new N20 four cylinder that is slated to debut in the X1 later on in the year. It is possible that their will be a new six-cylinder engine debuting in the F30 either upon its introduction or slightly there-after.
__________________
2011 E90 M3 ZCP - Individual Moonstone/Individual Amarone Extended/Individual Piano Black With Inlay:LINK!!!
1994 Euro E36 M3 Sedan - Daytona Violet/Mulberry:LINK!!!
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 01:43 AM   #9
FVM3
Major General
FVM3's Avatar
115
Rep
5,739
Posts

 
Drives: e92 m3, f30 328i
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (2)

I just cant deal with 4 cylinder engine
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 01:48 AM   #10
fuzzybam
Private First Class
United_States
1
Rep
197
Posts

 
Drives: One with wheels
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

They are two entirely different animals.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 02:09 AM   #11
Crazy Bimmer
The Jesal
Crazy Bimmer's Avatar
United_States
143
Rep
5,830
Posts

 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chicago IL

iTrader: (19)

Garage List
2009 BMW M3  [0.00]
Send a message via AIM to Crazy Bimmer
There wont be a performance package. Think of the 335is has a special edition that was just made to boost sales in the final end of the model cycle. Remember the 330i ZHP? Same idea.

BMW will do what BMWLVR mentioned. If history repeats itself then the F30 will debut with the n55 335i then a year or two model years later it will switch to a different engine. Rumor said to be called a 340i. My guess it will be just 1 model year later when they switch engines. Like they did on the 325/330 E90.

Then again the N20 will most likely be in the F30 right away...
__________________
2009 E90 M3 - SOLD
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 02:09 AM   #12
crackberry
Major
crackberry's Avatar
United_States
12
Rep
1,003
Posts

 
Drives: Porsche Carrera GTS (997.2)
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: southern california

iTrader: (0)

Doubt it. Since the new m3 gets a minor bump in hp, I would expect the same for the 335. So I don't think a minor hp and torque bump on the f30 335 will result in the 335 eating the m3.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 02:12 AM   #13
FVM3
Major General
FVM3's Avatar
115
Rep
5,739
Posts

 
Drives: e92 m3, f30 328i
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbomma View Post
90% true. If you see the latest comparison of the 335is vs M3 on BMW Blog, it looks like the new performance package, with track focus performance, is bringing the 335's even closer to the M3. So what will the performance package of the new F30 335 bring to the table?
335i cant beat the m3 for some reasons. It's a daily, not designed for track use.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 02:26 AM   #14
fuzzybam
Private First Class
United_States
1
Rep
197
Posts

 
Drives: One with wheels
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbomma View Post
90% true. If you see the latest comparison of the 335is vs M3 on BMW Blog, it looks like the new performance package, with track focus performance, is bringing the 335's even closer to the M3. So what will the performance package of the new F30 335 bring to the table?
With F3x 335, I would guess it might be on par with the current M3 in a straight line, but fail at the track. However, when the F3x M3 comes out, I would assume that it will be a different story due to the turbocharging of the F3x M3.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 02:32 AM   #15
FVM3
Major General
FVM3's Avatar
115
Rep
5,739
Posts

 
Drives: e92 m3, f30 328i
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzybam View Post
With F3x 335, I would guess it might be on par with the current M3 in a straight line, but fail at the track. However, when the F3x M3 comes out, I would assume that it will be a different story due to the turbocharging of the F3x M3.
if m3 is going to be turbocharged, i believe that some mods on the f3x 335i can make it beat the m3.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 02:51 AM   #16
fuzzybam
Private First Class
United_States
1
Rep
197
Posts

 
Drives: One with wheels
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

You don't think the M3 will respond to mods as well as the 335 will? I'm talking F3x 335 to F3x M3.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 02:52 AM   #17
Elie335i
Legit :)
Elie335i's Avatar
Germany
6
Rep
369
Posts

 
Drives: 335Is/320i both coupe.
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Inside my 335i.

iTrader: (0)

it will kill the current m3, but on track though.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 03:02 AM   #18
FVM3
Major General
FVM3's Avatar
115
Rep
5,739
Posts

 
Drives: e92 m3, f30 328i
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzzybam View Post
You don't think the M3 will respond to mods as well as the 335 will? I'm talking F3x 335 to F3x M3.
turbo cars can always go crazy once it got chipped. I hope that bmw can keep the v8 for f3x m3
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 04:01 AM   #19
ES_TRADER
Colonel
68
Rep
2,699
Posts

 
Drives: 328i, 335i, M3, 535i, X5, 36M
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: OC

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2014 Ford Raptor  [0.00]
2012 328i E92  [5.00]
2013 X5  [0.00]
2013 335i F30  [4.00]
1990 Toyota Previa  [0.00]
1997 E36 M3  [5.00]
2011 E92 M3  [0.00]
2011 535i  [0.00]
E46 330 smokes e36 m3, e92 335 smokes e46 m3, Fxx 335 smokes e92 m3, and so on and so forth...history repeats
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 04:40 AM   #20
Ken37.73
Private 1st Class
Ken37.73's Avatar
7
Rep
473
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3 Jet Black
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ireland

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by richpuer View Post
E46 330 smokes e36 m3, e92 335 smokes e46 m3, Fxx 335 smokes e92 m3, and so on and so forth...history repeats
Totally disagree mate ! No non M is better than any M. The end. Faster, newer etc etc etc but "better" - NEVER !!
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 06:17 AM   #21
spyderco10
Colonel
spyderco10's Avatar
United_States
34
Rep
2,425
Posts

 
Drives: AW E92 M3 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Honolulu, HI

iTrader: (0)

oh good, the 335 vs m3 threads will continue even with the new f30, even before it comes out.
__________________
“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
- John 3:16
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2011, 06:41 AM   #22
I Love My Car
Banned
0
Rep
4
Posts

 
Drives: M3 E90
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

M3 will eat the 335 for breakfast and throw the leftovers to the dog for lunch. 335 is just so cheesy and unstable and so "common". An M is an M, thats always a level above regular series, an M3 on the other hand is "the" M, thats a level above all other M cars and always leads them.

Oh and I don't think anyone here gives a shit about the 335, sorry. Maybe you should take your case to the 3series forum.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:42 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST