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      06-30-2011, 09:51 AM   #45
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OP, you might want to read this.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=546195

Hope that helps.
Well, if it has to be a vert, try F12 650i.
I'd go with Z4, but it's a 2 seater.

There's nothing wrong with E93 M3.
Saying E93 M3 is a fake M3 is like saying all men drive stick.
I guess F1 drivers are all girls.
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      06-30-2011, 10:57 AM   #46
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You might also want to look at a used M6 convertible.
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      06-30-2011, 11:21 AM   #47
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Do you see any drawbacks with the E93? Two potential issues mentioned to me in another forum were lack of visibility with the top up, and too much wind with the top down.
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Lack of visibility? There's no B pillar and the rest of the window dimensions are pretty much the same as the E92. So the E93 has more visibility if anything.
E93 Has better visbility than the sedan and coupe. Whenever I get an e90/92 rental, I have to triple check before changing lanes as I'm not used to have a B pillar in the way.


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Also, any reliability concerns? We've had more maintenance/repair issues with our BMWs than our MBs, but I know this tends to depend on the specific model and model year of the car.
If you get a 335i, you should worry about reliability. The M3 is solid


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And as for the wind issue, like Kerry said, it's less windy with the top down (especially with a wind deflector) then an E92 with the windows open.
I love how I can roll with the top down, wind deflector up, windows up, and enjoy the fresh air. Where in a coupe/sedan (any car), you get too much wind, especially in your face. Hence why if I have a coupe/sedan, I'd need a sunroof.

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If you plan to track the car at all, which it doesnt seem like you do, then the vert isnt the right choice.
I disagree with you completely. The e93 may not be as light as an E90/92, but it's still extremely fun on the track and capable of getting comparable times.
My times on the track are similar to some E90/92s, slower than some, and faster than some. Most events allow an e93 since it's a hardtop with a built-in roll-over protection. You probably won't be breaking any records, but you will have a lot of fun at 7-8k RPM

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You might also want to look at a used M6 convertible.
Sick car but I doubt he wants a soft-top

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      06-30-2011, 11:26 AM   #48
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I disagree with you completely. The e93 may not be as light as a E90/92, but it's still extremely fun on the track and capable of getting comparable times.
My times on the track are similar to come E90/92s, slower than some, and faster than some. Most events allow an e93 since it's a hardtop with a built-in roll-over protection. You probably won't be breaking any records, but you will have a lot of fun at 7-8k RPM
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M5 is fast but still not in the range of gtr, both on the track or straight line. A stock GTR goes from 0-60 in 2.9 S
0-60? Seriously? Are you in high school?

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      07-01-2011, 06:25 AM   #50
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F10 M5:

WAY rather be in the ///M.
Some questions about the new M5:

- Cost?
- When will it be available?
- I assume it will have DCT?
- Any possibility of AWD?
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Some questions about the new M5:

- Cost?
- When will it be available?
- I assume it will have DCT?
- Any possibility of AWD?
Probably around 90K
Spring of 2012
Yes it will
Yes, AWD version to come year after

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0-60? Seriously? Are you in high school?

GT-R:






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WAY rather be in the ///M.
Did you see what I said? I said both on the track and drag, not just 0-60. Although I am a big bimmer fan, i must admit that GTR is way faster then the new M5 in anyway.
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      07-01-2011, 06:49 AM   #53
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I see that you drive both the C63 and M3. Would you agree that the cars are different enough that they complement each other? As I see it, each car has a different personality and somewhat different strengths.
For me, yes. C63 is even faster then a Ferrari 360 in straight line so give you a ballpark how fast it is. M3 i dont have to say much, handles really good, excellent track car.
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Easy one, get the 1M
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      07-01-2011, 10:05 AM   #55
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And there's some '04 and '05 Gallardo's on sale for just under $100k that I'd check out. Not too many though but if you can do $100k then you'd probably be able to do $110k which is the more populated with cars than the >$100k range of Lamborghinis.
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I came from an E93 M3. That thing is just a great all-around car! It's got enough space for those Costco runs, a style that turns heads, the V8 with an exhaust note just to die for, and the top-down drive is amazing!

If you want to take it to the track, don't let anyone tell you that it's not a "real" M, and that it's not a track car. Bullocks to that! It is AWESOME on the track!!! Besides, there's no better improvement for the track than gaining track experience
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I came from an E93 M3. That thing is just a great all-around car! It's got enough space for those Costco runs, a style that turns heads, the V8 with an exhaust note just to die for, and the top-down drive is amazing!

If you want to take it to the track, don't let anyone tell you that it's not a "real" M, and that it's not a track car. Bullocks to that! It is AWESOME on the track!!! Besides, there's no better improvement for the track than gaining track experience
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      07-01-2011, 05:07 PM   #60
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It's a very easy decision. Sell the C63 and get an M3 convertible and a GT-R. You'll get the vert that you want (and something that is still a shit load of fun) and the GT-R replaces the C63 which it destroys in all categories anyway (namely use in wet/inclement weather)...it looks much better than the C63 as well IMO.
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Be a man do the right thing and get a used turbo cab !!! Make the wife happy and get a real car. I will leave it at that.
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Or get a x5 ///M and for the second car go e93 335i few k great performance great ride. Those would be my only 2 options. 911/x3 or x5///M/335
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Easy one, get the 1M
The 1M is hard to get, not a convertible, and not available with DCT, but what about a 135i convertible? Well equipped, it's about $50K, which is about $30K less than an M3 convertible, and maybe it wouldn't be much less fun to drive?
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The 1M is hard to get, not a convertible, and not available with DCT, but what about a 135i convertible? Well equipped, it's about $50K, which is about $30K less than an M3 convertible, and maybe it wouldn't be much less fun to drive?
Getting a 1M or 135i? You must me kidding me. Just get an E93 m3 or GTR
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I have a C63 which I love, and am looking to add another performance car for the sake of variety. The wife and I would trade the two cars back and forth. Criteria for the new car are:

- Preferably under about $100K
- Back seat usable by a ~10-year-old kid for trips up to one hour
- Automatic or automated manual transmission
- Fun to drive (comparable to the C63 or better)
- Convertible would be nice, but not mandatory
- AWD would be nice, but not mandatory

One of the top contenders is the M3, either as a sedan or convertible. I'd appreciate comments on how the two compare as far as performance. I'm willing to give up some performance for the convertible, but not too much. If it's an M3, the idea is to get a real M3.
Our plan is to keep the C63, sell all of our other existing cars, and get two new cars, one of which will be an SUV. The other new car would be a fun car intended to complement the C63, preferably with a usable back seat (which just about knocks Porsche out of the running).

Although many would consider the M3 too similar to the C63, I think they're plenty different in personality, so the M3 is our current top contender. The wife is pushing hard for the E93 vert, but I'm more interested in performance, so I'm leaning towards the E90 sedan (with which I can get the competition package).

My question, again, is how different are the E90 and E93 in performance? I've read messages posted in multiple forums and several reviews, and the result is that I'm confused. Some say that it's hard to tell the difference between the vert and sedan on public roads, whereas others say that the difference is substantial (skidpad numbers seem to support that) and complain that the vert isn't good enough.

Have any of you had a lot of experience driving both cars, ideally on both road and track? Or does you know of a really thorough review which compares the two in detail?
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Our plan is to keep the C63, sell all of our other existing cars, and get two new cars, one of which will be an SUV. The other new car would be a fun car intended to complement the C63, preferably with a usable back seat (which just about knocks Porsche out of the running).

Although many would consider the M3 too similar to the C63, I think they're plenty different in personality, so the M3 is our current top contender. The wife is pushing hard for the E93 vert, but I'm more interested in performance, so I'm leaning towards the E90 sedan (with which I can get the competition package).

My question, again, is how different are the E90 and E93 in performance? I've read messages posted in multiple forums and several reviews, and the result is that I'm confused. Some say that it's hard to tell the difference between the vert and sedan on public roads, whereas others say that the difference is substantial (skidpad numbers seem to support that) and complain that the vert isn't good enough.

Have any of you had a lot of experience driving both cars, ideally on both road and track? Or does you know of a really thorough review which compares the two in detail?
I owned E92 m3 and now e93 m3. The difference of acceleration is obvious due to 400Ibs extra from the roof.
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