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      03-25-2014, 08:09 PM   #1
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Less than 10k on Conti Sport rears!!!

At 31.7k I put two new conti sports on my car, now at 41k my tire guy says I need new shoes. I don't track and don't do burnouts, what gives?
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      03-25-2014, 08:19 PM   #2
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At 31.7k I put two new conti sports on my car, now at 41k my tire guy says I need new shoes. I don't track and don't do burnouts, what gives?
Normal for these tires. I ditched them after 4000 miles for Michelin PSS. Much better grip, and longer tread life, although for a high performance tire on a powerful RWD car, don't expect more than about 15k miles.
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Sure your tire guy isn't suggesting you pull the plug on this set a bit early?
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      03-25-2014, 11:13 PM   #4
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Did your tire guy give you more details, i.e. whether the wear was noticeably uneven? I do track and I wore through two sets of rear PSSes after 9K miles each because both sets wore prematurely on the insides. I've just reduced rear camber and toe-in, so hopefully that helps even out wear, but just being told you need new tires doesn't really give us enough to provide meaningful insights as to what may have caused you to need new ones so soon.
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      03-25-2014, 11:34 PM   #5
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Im not a fan of the Conti's But there supposed to be a 25k mile tire and PSS 15k.
That be n said PSS are #1 in ever category, so if your lookn for Performance get PSS.
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At 31.7k I put two new conti sports on my car, now at 41k my tire guy says I need new shoes. I don't track and don't do burnouts, what gives?
I had conti's and they didn't last more than 7k miles in the rear as well. The fronts still has 40% but rears were toast. I switched to PSS hoping they would last over 10k in rears.
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      03-26-2014, 12:29 AM   #7
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Jesus. Are you guys doing it wrong? I live in west Hollywood, just about as stop and go as you can get and I am always heavy off the line. I'm at 7300 miles since new on both car and stock issue continentals and they aren't by any means toast yet. I thought I might get maybe 12-16k on rears and I'd ditch the fronts with the rear for PSS. Are all of you tracking?
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      03-26-2014, 01:24 AM   #8
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Conti's w/12k miles on the M3 I recently picked up. Plenty of life left in them, looks like the original owner took it easy. So much depends on how hard you drive.
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My contis have 16k on them and are at the wear bars. I agree with the earlier post to find out if they were wearing uneven.

I track my lotus and only get 3k max out of a set of tires... So it really does have a lot to do with how you drive.
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Had to replace my pss tires at 16k km and the car is a garage queen , hope the new contis will last.
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Well no track and normal to aggressive driving (but no launches or chirping.) Tires are Conti Sport Contact 3. Tire guy says they are notorious for fast wear, and would not have recommended I get them (but my fronts are the same so for consistency sake and were not being replaced).

He said I do need a 4 wheel alignment, so some where caused by that, and I was supposed to rotate side to side at 5k (says right rear wheres faster) but I waited.

Will eek out another month then replace (pretty dry here until June).
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Even if the rears are completely toast as opposed to just low enough to recommend replacement, this would not be shocking.

OP have you run through other sets of tires on this car? If so, what tires and how long did they last? What was the tread depth when they were replaced?
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My Conti all-season DWS's seem to be holding up well. I only run them in the winter though. I run PSS's in the summer.

I do have a pair of 265/35-19 Continental ExtremeContact DW tires with virtually no wear on them for sale if you're interested. You may not wanna mix these with your fronts. However, if you do, I can make you a pretty good deal

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Tune/exhaust/gts dct= 7k miles on PSS Stock size for me. Tires just do not last on this car. I can see highway folks getting 15k but that is it.
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Tune/exhaust/gts dct= 7k miles on PSS Stock size for me. Tires just do not last on this car. I can see highway folks getting 15k but that is it.
7k? Dang, that's pretty low. I think I've made it to 7k with still some meat left on my 295 rear PSS. I don't do too much 1-2 aggressive shift though, you know us MT guys and diff bolts
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I had the conti sports and the rears were basically toast at 13k. I should have replaced them a few thousand miles before that...
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7k? Dang, that's pretty low. I think I've made it to 7k with still some meat left on my 295 rear PSS. I don't do too much 1-2 aggressive shift though, you know us MT guys and diff bolts
That is another reason I am going to 295, I know they are a little heavier but the dct even turned down on shift speed just kills the tires wide open on the 1-2 shift. If it is turned all the way up it squirmes on the 2-3 shift. Cool as hell but every time it does it there goes a couple more dollars LOL
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That is another reason I am going to 295, I know they are a little heavier but the dct even turned down on shift speed just kills the tires wide open on the 1-2 shift. If it is turned all the way up it squirmes on the 2-3 shift. Cool as hell but every time it does it there goes a couple more dollars LOL
Oh you'll love it. Grip difference between stock 265 PSS and 295 PSS was night and day to be honest. I can still spin my tires going from 1-2, but nowhere like before.

Also, since you are getting new wheels, they might even out. My rear OEM ZCP + 265 PSS weighed slightly more than my HRE C20 + 295 PSS. Win Win
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I had the conti sports and the rears were basically toast at 13k. I should have replaced them a few thousand miles before that...
Holy balls, lol.
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Im not a fan of the Conti's But there supposed to be a 25k mile tire and PSS 15k.
That be n said PSS are #1 in ever category, so if your lookn for Performance get PSS.
PSS are warrantied for 30K.
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PSS are warrantied for 30K.
Only if running square and rotating. 15k when staggered.
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I am second owner who bought car at 26k miles. At that point rears were far worse than fronts, and were not replaced at the same time by po. At 31k I replaced rears, 40k fronts (so i got at least 14k on the fronts plus what ever miles prior owner had).
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