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      04-28-2011, 08:21 AM   #1
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Now Official: Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/28/o...11-gt3-rs-4-0/

Nice! Now will they put a version of this motor, in 4.0L form, in the next generation GT3 or GT3 RS too? I do remember hearing something about this engine being retired in favor of the 9A1 though.
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      04-28-2011, 08:42 AM   #2
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      04-28-2011, 08:51 AM   #3
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http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/28/o...11-gt3-rs-4-0/

Nice! Now will they put a version of this motor, in 4.0L form, in the next generation GT3 or GT3 RS too? I do remember hearing something about this engine being retired in favor of the 9A1 though.
My understanding is that this is the last itteration of the Mezger engine. The 991 GT3 will have some variation of the new direct injected engine. Again this is the rumor I heard from Porsche people. The price tag on this new 4.0 RS will be substantial. I considered it - still do - but close to $200K is just too much for that car, unless you are a collector.
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as good as it gets 125hp/l is sick!!
thought i shared this too


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      04-28-2011, 10:03 AM   #5
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BMW needs this engine in the F30
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      04-28-2011, 10:06 AM   #6
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Its a bargain at 200-210K considering what it has and what it will do.

As for the engine, the 991 GT3 will get the 9A1 engine. It will likely be 3.8 liters and pushing 475-480 hp.

This car is a swan song of the Mezger block...and boy does it deliver.
How do you know if it "delivers"??? None of these cars are in the US yet. I was talking to my Porsche sales rep. about this car and it will come here around September or later if you order it now. Base price is $185K plus whatever you want (PCCB not included and I would not put that piece of shit in it anyway) It is hardly a bargain when you can have a F430 scud for the same price.
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      04-28-2011, 10:11 AM   #7
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It'll be fantastic if it's offered in more quantities, I hope it's not a limited run. i would def. buy a 4.0L if it came in the standard GT3 trim
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      04-28-2011, 10:15 AM   #8
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My understanding is that this is the last itteration of the Mezger engine. The 991 GT3 will have some variation of the new direct injected engine. Again this is the rumor I heard from Porsche people.
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As for the engine, the 991 GT3 will get the 9A1 engine. It will likely be 3.8 liters and pushing 475-480 hp. This car is a swan song of the Mezger block...and boy does it deliver.
Yeah, that's what I thought I remembered reading too.

Do you guys know what roll the Metzger engine will play in the various factory race car efforts going forward? Will they only use it in the next GT3 RSR? Or will they still use it in future versions of the GT3 Cup and GT3-R too?
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      04-28-2011, 10:38 AM   #9
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My problem with this car - and with the 3.8 RS - is that they are trying to serve a dual pupose, namely being a road car but great on the track. No use. You cannot have both.
My RS is great on the track, truly amazing, now after 2 track days and alignment I can say the step from the M3 on the track is as large as the step to the M3 from a Audi A4. But, and here is a big but the car is not good as a road car, just isn't. So I am thinking right now - and I thought about the new 4.0 RS too and dismissed- to get the Cup S or a Radical SR8. No reason to go halfway. (my prior reason was not to have a trailer)
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Thank goodness someone is still committed to natural aspiration and a true manual trans!

The majority of the M3 clan can't upgrade to a GT3 until they get a PDK version.
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      04-28-2011, 12:26 PM   #11
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I don't ever plan to buy a GT3 (well, at least not a new one) however if I were somehow in the market for cars in this price range, while I could easily manage the 6MT, I have to admit the lack of PDK availability would probably be a deal breaker for me. That said, I'd happily take a 997 GT3 Cup with the six speed sequential manual. Don't need a "D" mode, but am very much addicted to clutchless shifting now. Actually, it's too bad they don't put that transmission in the road going Metzger-powered cars.

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Thank goodness someone is still committed to natural aspiration and a true manual trans!

The majority of the M3 clan can't upgrade to a GT3 until they get a PDK version.
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      04-28-2011, 01:53 PM   #12
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way to go out on a good note. this car must be glorious.
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      04-28-2011, 02:04 PM   #13
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here is what I would like to have (working on it!!)
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Aggghhhh. I love Porsche but their "special edition" cars get tiresome.
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No my prior post is not a Cup car it is a GT3 RSR which is way above the Cup or the Cup S.
Here is a Cup car:
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Aggghhhh. I love Porsche but their "special edition" cars get tiresome.
It's all about marketing and making money!
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      04-28-2011, 03:28 PM   #17
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Aggghhhh. I love Porsche but their "special edition" cars get tiresome.
Porsche has turned "special edition" and "limited edition" into meaningless.
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      04-28-2011, 04:10 PM   #18
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Yeah Porsche "special editions" are 100% better than any BMW "special editions"
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Porsche has turned "special edition" and "limited edition" into meaningless.
In 2011 --- they make 22 different versions of the 911's. That is no lie. Go to their website and check it out.

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You are all forgetting that BMW sells 18 versions of the 3-series in the US! In Europe there are over 90 models and 30 different sedans!



http://bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/ecom4/framese...-bmwuk,00.html











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So why can't the S65 produced 335 lbs-ft of torque? I would LOVE that.

And why is it, Porsche can make money on all these limited run, special editions, but BMW can't bring over a GTS type car here? Because it cost too much to federalize?? Really??

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