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      07-01-2011, 03:58 PM   #1
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So the GOP raised the debt limit 19 times, for a total increase of $4 trillion during President Bush's 8 years in office. Yet, now that a democrat is in office, touching the debt limit is out of bounds. Why are the republicans playing party first, instead of country first?

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Democrats seem to forget that Bush was paying for a war to be started while he was in office.

Also, that website is about as democratic as it comes
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Democrats seem to forget that Bush was paying for a war to be started while he was in office.

Also, that website is about as democratic as it comes
So think progress was lying about the 19 times the debt limit was raised? And are we not still fighting those wars?
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Was the Iraq invasion even necessary? And how much did the fed government overspend on security and contractors to rebuild that country?
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Was the Iraq invasion even necessary?
If you ask Haliburton, Blackwater, and KBR stockholders the answer would be yes.
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Democrats seem to forget that Bush was paying for a war to be started while he was in office.
Bush didn't "pay" for the wars. Instead of raising revenues to pay for the wars, Bush did the opposite and cut taxes.

Bush charged up the wars on the Federal Credit Card, and left the bills for Obama to pay off.

Now the Republicans don't want to honor the Credit Card charges that they themselves charged up.


Federal Debt: 14 Trillion
Cost of Wars: 4 Trillion
Cost of Bush Tax cuts: 2.5 Trillion
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Alternate Federal Debt: 7.5 Trillion (If we hadn't gone to war or had the Bush Tax Cuts.)
That's right, the Federal Debt could be HALF of what it currently is, without these two expenses!

Cost of Bush Tax Cuts if they are extended another Decade: 5.5 Trillion. I'm sure you have a ready-made excuse as to how this extra 5.5 Trillion in Debt directly due to Bush's tax cuts will be Obama's fault......

EDIT: Cost of the Tim Pawlenty Tax Cuts: 10.3 Trillion. I'm sure the right wing will figure a way to blame this additional 10.3 Trillion debt on Obama too...

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Back in WWII, the citizens of the US were actually into paying for their war:



Used to be a time when folks would support their country. Now the republicans can only support their own party. Fucking traitors!!
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So think progress was lying about the 19 times the debt limit was raised? And are we not still fighting those wars?
According to our president, we were going to be out of there in 12 months.


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Back in WWII, the citizens of the US were actually into paying for their war:



Used to be a time when folks would support their country. Now the republicans can only support their own party. Fucking traitors!!
NoNo The GOP supports people that are working =)


And I would respond back to 11series but he's as ignorant as it comes and will argue that the sky is purple if the GOP supported it was blue.
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According to our president, we were going to be out of there in 12 months.

NoNo The GOP supports people that are working =)

And I would respond back to 11series but he's as ignorant as it comes and will argue that the sky is purple if the GOP supported it was blue.
Oh it's those pesky facts he uses against you, huh? Do you not have a lie that you can use as a reply?
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According to our president, we were going to be out of there in 12 months.
When did Obama say that?

On 02/27/09 Obama said: "Let me say this as plainly as I can: By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end".

On August 19, 2010, "Operation Iraqi Freedom ends as last combat soldiers leave Baghdad"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081805644.html



Promise made, promise kept. 2 weeks early.

If you have a problem with Obama, you must REALLY have a huge problem with Bush's 2003 "Mission Accomplished" speech.
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Oh it's those pesky facts he uses against you, huh? Do you not have a lie that you can use as a reply?

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When did Obama say that?

On 02/27/09 Obama said: "Let me say this as plainly as I can: By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end".

On August 19, 2010, "Operation Iraqi Freedom ends as last combat soldiers leave Baghdad"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081805644.html



Promise made, promise kept. 2 weeks early.

If you have a problem with Obama, you must REALLY have a huge problem with Bush's 2003 "Mission Accomplished" speech.
Obviously you don't have anyone currently deployed.
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Obviously you don't have anyone currently deployed.
Obviously you have just been caught making shit up, and don't have the balls to admit you were wrong.

When are you going to start calling me a Socialist? That is typically what you guys do when you've been bald-ass busted being completely wrong.

Again, WHEN did Obama promise all the troops would be out in 12 months?
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Obviously you have just been caught making shit up, and don't have the balls to admit you were wrong.

When are you going to start calling me a Socialist? That is typically what you guys do when you've been bald-ass busted being completely wrong.
Yeah I figured..

Ill start calling you a socialist right after you start talking about Glen Becks chalkboard.
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Yeah I figured..

Ill start calling you a socialist right after you start talking about Glen Becks chalkboard.
Again, WHEN did Obama promise all the troops would be out in 12 months?

Can't answer that, can you? Damn facts keep failing you, don't they?
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Were you not alive when he was talking during his multi million dollar campaign around the world? All he was talking about was bringing out troop home and reviving the economy. Same thing he's "talking" about now, Other then Libya, because you know, that really isn't "war"...
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(once again like I said, he will fight about anything he can if its not going his way)

If you want to try to justify the BS he has said, I don't care, we see that his ratings are dropping, even CNN is reporting that.

He won't be president much longer anyways.
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Were you not alive when he was talking during his multi million dollar campaign around the world? All he was talking about was bringing out troop home and reviving the economy. Same thing he's "talking" about now, Other then Libya, because you know, that really isn't "war"...

Again, WHEN did Obama promise all the troops would be out in 12 months?

Obama specifically DID NOT say that during his campaign.

You are showing yourself to just be an outright liar now.

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(once again like I said, he will fight about anything he can if its not going his way)

If you want to try to justify the BS he has said, I don't care, we see that his ratings are dropping, even CNN is reporting that.

He won't be president much longer anyways.

I'm not justifying anything. The facts are the facts. Exactly as reported by the right-wing washington post. You are the one trying to justify making shit up.

On 02/27/09 Obama said: "Let me say this as plainly as I can: By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end".

On August 19, 2010, "Operation Iraqi Freedom ends as last combat soldiers leave Baghdad"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081805644.html


Again, WHEN did Obama promise all the troops would be out in 12 months?
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When did Obama say that?

On 02/27/09 Obama said: "Let me say this as plainly as I can: By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end".

On August 19, 2010, "Operation Iraqi Freedom ends as last combat soldiers leave Baghdad"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081805644.html



Promise made, promise kept. 2 weeks early.

If you have a problem with Obama, you must REALLY have a huge problem with Bush's 2003 "Mission Accomplished" speech.
The problem is people don't pay attention to the words being used, combat soliers, but think of it as soldiers on the ground. You don't think that shiny new embassy is going to protect itself do ya?
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You're just not worth fighting, I'm sure that is the only time he has ever talked about our troops.

If you have or knew a loved one over there you would understand, but you don't. Just like you don't understand of a lot of things that people support, you support what is close to you. And welfare and Obama-care are not close to people that are working for there living.

Done fighting with you about this. You can reply, with whatever smart-ass comment you want, but the truth is you don't understand, you might be able to read about it, and twist it in whatever way makes you feel good, but you don't understand.
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The problem is people don't pay attention to the words being used, combat soliers, but think of it as soldiers on the ground. You don't think that shiny new embassy is going to protect itself do ya?
Yea, folks have to pay attention to all the words. But Obama actually went into detail in his campaign to go into detail about exactly what his plan was. Including exactly what he meant by saying combat troops would be withdrawn. It was all out there for anyone who wanted to pay attention.

Oh, the "embassy" AKA Mini-City is protected by contractors..... We pay tons of money to war profiteers for that!
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