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      05-26-2011, 12:44 PM   #45
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That sucks bad, really bad!

But, if I may ask - can you please find out how much they want for that scapped car?! If it turns out to be valued at 40k and the damage is 26k, that leaves 14k. I will buy that bitch from you today for that. Gimme some S65 man. Please! I don't care how F'd up it is, I bet the thing will still crank over with a breaker bar. It can live to see duty in another car - I believe it.

Unfortunately, no, that won't "buff right out", but please don't scrap it!
This is exactly what I came here to say. Buy it, drop a stroker motor in it. Strip interior and sell it off, BAM, track car. Call it a day.
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      05-26-2011, 01:00 PM   #46
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Does anybody here actually know anybody that has done the Dinan Stroker Engine?
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      05-26-2011, 01:11 PM   #47
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just get a new car - think resale
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Since they have to completely teardown, blueprint, and rebuild the engines anyway, just give them the battle-worn S65 for the core.
I'm pretty sure they require a working engine for the core, but they might be willing to work something out. The web page just says "suitable", so as long as the block hasn't been ventilated they might just add a surcharge for replacing all the bearings and seals that they might otherwise have been able to leave alone.

As for the people saying you don't want the car back...unless the frame is tweaked, I would want my car back. The engine, wheel, and suspension bits are just parts, easily replaced. "It'll never be the same"...um yeah, it'll be a brand new engine
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I'm pretty sure they require a working engine for the core, but they might be willing to work something out. The web page just says "suitable", so as long as the block hasn't been ventilated they might just add a surcharge for replacing all the bearings and seals that they might otherwise have been able to leave alone.

As for the people saying you don't want the car back...unless the frame is tweaked, I would want my car back. The engine, wheel, and suspension bits are just parts, easily replaced. "It'll never be the same"...um yeah, it'll be a brand new engine
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I want my car back. Financially it makes the most sense for me. As far as resale, I am not concerned about that because I have no plans to sell it any time soon and plus, even if I did it should still be ok because it is an M3 and that is all some people care about . Plus if I get the stroker engine then it will be really special.

So check this out.... I just talked with the guys at Dinan and they said that what usually happens in cases like this is the insurance gives me or the dealership the money for a new engine and I can just have the dealer order a Dinan Stroker engine for 1k less then a regular S65! As long as the dealer sends back the old engine which he said the insurance company usually lets them do for free or next to nothing. It is the same exact engine as far as installation goes. The Dinan engine is exactly the same except it is just bored and stroked... oh, and it puts out an extra 80hp/85trq! Those numbers are just for the engine alone.

It looks like this might actually work as long as they dont total my car :-)!
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Not to hijack the thread but..if Dinan can "tweak" the engine to put 80 more HP, why didn't M3 do that to start with?? obviously not the money, cause Dinan's isn't 5K more than our S65!!
does it make it less reliable?
any reason?
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      05-26-2011, 02:00 PM   #51
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Not to hijack the thread but..if Dinan can "tweak" the engine to put 80 more HP, why didn't M3 do that to start with?? obviously not the money, cause Dinan's isn't 5K more than our S65!!
does it make it less reliable?
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it's not just a 'tweak', it's bored and stroked to 4.6 liters of displacement
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...I can just have the dealer order a Dinan Stroker engine for 1k less then a regular S65!
Sweet!

Funny how the insurance company always lowballs estimates when they think you might just take the money and not fix the car, but when they think they might have to pay to get it repaired correctly they're alot more willing to call it a total loss
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I want my car back. Financially it makes the most sense for me. As far as resale, I am not concerned about that because I have no plans to sell it any time soon and plus, even if I did it should still be ok because it is an M3 and that is all some people care about . Plus if I get the stroker engine then it will be really special.

So check this out.... I just talked with the guys at Dinan and they said that what usually happens in cases like this is the insurance gives me or the dealership the money for a new engine and I can just have the dealer order a Dinan Stroker engine for 1k less then a regular S65! As long as the dealer sends back the old engine which he said the insurance company usually lets them do for free or next to nothing. It is the same exact engine as far as installation goes. The Dinan engine is exactly the same except it is just bored and stroked... oh, and it puts out an extra 80hp/85trq! Those numbers are just for the engine alone.

It looks like this might actually work as long as they dont total my car :-)!
If you do this, I get the first ride, payment for the suggestion...

Hope it works out.
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      05-26-2011, 02:34 PM   #54
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If you do this, I get the first ride, payment for the suggestion...

Hope it works out.
You got it man! Great idea!
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      05-26-2011, 02:46 PM   #55
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I assume you would have to send the car to CA for the conversion, right? Would be sooo cool.

BTW, I know there was a guy who got the stroker and posted about it in the Exhaust/Engine mods forum. I tried searching but didn't find it. You might want to post up a note in there, too.
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I assume you would have to send the car to CA for the conversion, right?
No need... the shop has to pull the motor no matter what, so instead of dropping in another stock motor, they drop in the Dinan one and send the bad motor back in the crate the Dinan motor came in.

Assuming it's a BMW/Dinan dealer, then they can load the correct ECU code, too. I'd probably only try this if a Dinan dealer was doing the work or it would get messy dealing with the BMW dealer, Dinan, and the insurance co. Assuming Dinan has a built motor ready to go the car could be driving home in a few weeks BETTER than new!
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I assume you would have to send the car to CA for the conversion, right? Would be sooo cool.

BTW, I know there was a guy who got the stroker and posted about it in the Exhaust/Engine mods forum. I tried searching but didn't find it. You might want to post up a note in there, too.
No Shomp can do it all since they are an authorized Dinan dealer. I even called the region rep and they said they have an engine in stock that they can ship out tomorrow!.... All the differences between their Stroker Engine and a stock S65 are all internal. Other then that, the engine mounts and installs exactly the same as a stock S65.
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SID, tell me where that curb is, I feel the urge for a stroker.
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So- you mounted the kerb 15mph after the front tyres wiped most of the speed off. and still manager to take the sump out. Hmmm, maybe I'll sell my M3- as it's obviously made of cheese.
It's pretty clear (at least to me ) the 15-mph story is what the OP told his wife... and probably believed him. And the story that the engine 'inhaled' something and died? Geez. And why NO PICTURES? Because the truth that he wiped out at a MUCH HIGHER speed would come to light .
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Dinan Stroker engine for 1k less then a regular S65! As long as the dealer sends back the old engine which he said the insurance company usually lets them do for free or next to nothing. It is the same exact engine as far as installation goes. The Dinan engine is exactly the same except it is just bored and stroked... oh, and it puts out an extra 80hp/85trq!
That sounds like and excellent idea, let's put in an engine that has more power and give the car to a guy that can't drive...sounds like a plan
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So you rather protect your $11,500 dollars and drive a $75,000 car which has needed 50k of repairs to get it back into original condition? Hm ok

Couple things to consider:
1. With 50k damage dont expect your car back less then 3 months ATLEAST.
2. Itll never be the same
3. Youll end up losing more then 11,500 long term because no one will pay anything to what its worth with 50k of repairs done to it.

Im suprised youve thought so much about this....move on.
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15mph? really? Not saying i can do a accident reconstruction or anything,BUT.... That sequence of events seems VERY unlikely.. Either way you will pay, because its a single vehicle accident (your fault)
did you get charged?
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How about now telling us the real story?
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Not to hijack the thread but..if Dinan can "tweak" the engine to put 80 more HP, why didn't M3 do that to start with?? obviously not the money, cause Dinan's isn't 5K more than our S65!!
does it make it less reliable?
any reason?
Because then the M3 would encroach on the M5. The same reason why Porsche didn't put a LSD initially in the Cayman because it would likely be faster on a track than the 911.
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How about now telling us the real story?
Ok, so when I first wrote this I completely guessed at the speed but after driving around for a couple days and trying to estimate the speed I was actually going I am now thinking that is was probably allot closer to 35 or 40.
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Ok, so when I first wrote this I completely guessed at the speed but after driving around for a couple days and trying to estimate the speed I was actually going I am now thinking that is was probably allot closer to 35 or 40.
I was wondering if you hit something like a hydrant and maybe punched it early in turn.


Glad you guys are ok, that is the important thing.
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