Autocar: M3 GTS versus GT3 Compared on Track (Video)

Jason · 05-12-2011, 02:49 PM

Crazy Bimmer · 05-12-2011, 02:56 PM

Always said im impressed with what BMW can do given the weight.

wwjd15 · 05-12-2011, 03:02 PM

Impressive! GTS could keep up with the GT3...

MRSSIIM3 · 05-12-2011, 07:32 PM

where is that road wtf

GOLFFRR · 05-12-2011, 10:18 PM

awesome vid! very impressed with the M.

Dave07997S · 05-12-2011, 10:35 PM

Even the GTS is under tired in the rear, the GT3 with its 12" wide rims and its305 rears with the engine out back just gets tons more grip coming out of the corners.

Great video and beautiful course.

Dave

Frank J · 05-13-2011, 12:19 AM

The M3 GTS wasn't close to the GT3. I am not impressed with it, the driver in the M3 was trying so hard to keep up with the GT3 which was not being driven to the best of its capabilities. The M3 GTS is priced closer to a GT3 RS but the RS would embarrass the M3 GTS so badly there is no point in putting them together. Fail for BMW.

N8dawg · 05-13-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank J

The M3 GTS wasn't close to the GT3. I am not impressed with it, the driver in the M3 was trying so hard to keep up with the GT3 which was not being driven to the best of its capabilities. The M3 GTS is priced closer to a GT3 RS but the RS would embarrass the M3 GTS so badly there is no point in putting them together. Fail for BMW.

+1 Sorry BMW, try again

creepy coupe · 05-13-2011, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hamama3

where is that road wtf

The Millbrook proving ground (hill route) here in the England

http://www.millbrook.co.uk/Page/Home

kmarei · 05-13-2011, 12:44 PM

nice video

http://bcove.me/f0ocwi6e

saeedg48 · 05-13-2011, 12:52 PM

Interesting video.

PKL · 05-13-2011, 12:53 PM

Mexico Blue or whatever the color of that Porsche is my FAVORITE. Cool vid

Brosef · 05-13-2011, 01:01 PM

no surprise there, but good video.

crackberry · 05-13-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank J

The M3 GTS wasn't close to the GT3. I am not impressed with it, the driver in the M3 was trying so hard to keep up with the GT3 which was not being driven to the best of its capabilities. The M3 GTS is priced closer to a GT3 RS but the RS would embarrass the M3 GTS so badly there is no point in putting them together. Fail for BMW.

You said everything I was going to say. With the high price tag, the gt3 rs 3.8 doesn't look like a bad bargain in terms of what you get when compared to the m3 gts. lol. And according to 'ring times, the m3 gts gets similar times as a 997 carrera 2s. So, even a base gt3 was just overkill. ouch

Still interesting though and a great video.

crackberry · 05-13-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PKL

Mexico Blue or whatever the color of that Porsche is my FAVORITE. Cool vid

I like the color too, but I cannot imagine driving that around LA or Hollywood. People might get the wrong impression of you...

MVF4Rrider · 05-13-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crackberry

I like the color too, but I cannot imagine driving that around LA or Hollywood. People might get the wrong impression of you...

Ah, just put on a UNC (Tarheels) front license plate. Truthfully, the day I care about what others think and the day I let others influence me, will be a sad day. That blue is fantastic. Germans have always used a wide color pallet. Only recently have they become more conservative, and even more so in the blasé US market.

1cleanm3 · 05-14-2011, 04:51 AM

gt3

1MOREMOD · 05-14-2011, 06:48 PM

why is the guy in the gts driving without his harness? you would think all the movement in the seat could only hurt his driving.

newowner35i · 05-14-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank J

The M3 GTS wasn't close to the GT3. I am not impressed with it, the driver in the M3 was trying so hard to keep up with the GT3 which was not being driven to the best of its capabilities. The M3 GTS is priced closer to a GT3 RS but the RS would embarrass the M3 GTS so badly there is no point in putting them together. Fail for BMW.

. Clearly it was keeping up, u can't just say since it wasn't slower than the gt3 that the gt3 driver wasn't trying. Also I think the gt3 rs is slower than the gts

newowner35i · 05-14-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by newowner35i

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Originally Posted by Frank J

The M3 GTS wasn't close to the GT3. I am not impressed with it, the driver in the M3 was trying so hard to keep up with the GT3 which was not being driven to the best of its capabilities. The M3 GTS is priced closer to a GT3 RS but the RS would embarrass the M3 GTS so badly there is no point in putting them together. Fail for BMW.

. Clearly it was keeping up, u can't just say since it wasn't slower than the gt3 that the gt3 driver wasn't trying. Also I think the gt3 rs is slower than the gts

. I forgot to add driver talent too and on that track the fat tires on the gt3 helps

I M STIG · 05-15-2011, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by newowner35i

. Clearly it was keeping up, u can't just say since it wasn't slower than the gt3 that the gt3 driver wasn't trying. Also I think the gt3 rs is slower than the gts

The GT3 RS is WAY faster than the GTS... The M3 GTS is a cool car, but it's just slightly faster than the E46 M3 CSL. The GT3 is way too much car for the GTS in general.

However, with that said, BMW did a good job since they've been out of this game for a while now. They haven't really tried competing with the GT3 since the CSL, so I'm glad to see them at least attempting it. I have an interesting feeling that the new E90 M3 GTS/CSL/EVO thing will be a bit better than the current E92 M3 GTS. BMW need to strip a bit of weight off the body panels by making them carbon fiber, but also needs wider rear tires closer to 300 mm. 285s in the rear are just too small for a car this wide and powerful. I'm sure if you went up to just 295s you'd notice a bit more grip where the 285s would be sliding out.

newowner35i · 05-15-2011, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AwesomeBMW2

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Originally Posted by newowner35i

. Clearly it was keeping up, u can't just say since it wasn't slower than the gt3 that the gt3 driver wasn't trying. Also I think the gt3 rs is slower than the gts

The GT3 RS is WAY faster than the GTS... The M3 GTS is a cool car, but it's just slightly faster than the E46 M3 CSL. The GT3 is way too much car for the GTS in general.

However, with that said, BMW did a good job since they've been out of this game for a while now. They haven't really tried competing with the GT3 since the CSL, so I'm glad to see them at least attempting it. I have an interesting feeling that the new E90 M3 GTS/CSL/EVO thing will be a bit better than the current E92 M3 GTS. BMW need to strip a bit of weight off the body panels by making them carbon fiber, but also needs wider rear tires closer to 300 mm. 285s in the rear are just too small for a car this wide and powerful. I'm sure if you went up to just 295s you'd notice a bit more grip where the 285s would be sliding out.

. Fine the rs is quicker but ur Ar 100% right about tire width it has to be 305 or more because of the power, though this means it's not as much fun (sideways) after all sheer driving pleasure and ultimate driving machine is their slogan

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