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      06-01-2011, 08:39 PM   #155
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Could you please attach the image one more time? I seem to have missed the first 40 times you posted it.

All I can say, is thank god for you vigilant BMW forum posters! You've definitely uncovered fraud that has inexplicably been overlooked by nearly all of the other 7 billion people on this planet. Keep up the good work!
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Could you please attach the image one more time? I seem to have missed the first 40 times you posted it.

All I can say, is thank god for you vigilant BMW forum posters! You've definitely uncovered fraud that has inexplicably been overlooked by nearly all of the other 7 billion people on this planet. Keep up the good work!
Does this post mean you have a perfectly good explanation for the image?
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Does this post mean you have a perfectly good explanation for the image?

Yes, as it has been explained to you over and over, this is NOT the original 1961 PDF image scanned on the 1961 version of Adobe Kenya edition of Acrobat.

The digital scan shows what happens when you take a document with anti-scan protections and by brute force quickly slam it into a format that can be displayed on the internet within the same news cycle as Obama's announcement.

As you have agreed with before, this is NOT the original document, this is a digital scan of a certified copy of the original document. The CONTENTS of this document is what was certified. The FORMAT is a red herring. And you've already admitted to this.

But you don't give a rat's ass, because you openly admit that you don't care about the truth, you care only about attacking Obama with anything you think you can make stick. You've been clear you don't care how stupid it makes you look, you will off-hand ignore all the lawful and authoritative sources of authentication.

go troll away, Troll child.
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Yes, as it has been explained to you over and over, this is NOT the original 1961 PDF image scanned on the 1961 version of Adobe Kenya edition of Acrobat.

The digital scan shows what happens when you take a document with anti-scan protections and by brute force quickly slam it into a format that can be displayed on the internet within the same news cycle as Obama's announcement.

As you have agreed with before, this is NOT the original document, this is a digital scan of a certified copy of the original document. The CONTENTS of this document is what was certified. The FORMAT is a red herring. And you've already admitted to this.

But you don't give a rat's ass, because you openly admit that you don't care about the truth, you care only about attacking Obama with anything you think you can make stick. You've been clear you don't care how stupid it makes you look, you will off-hand ignore all the lawful and authoritative sources of authentication.

go troll away, Troll child.
So, you can't explain how the image was produced? It seems to me that is what this discussion thread is about. Everything about Obama is a fraud. It is no big surprise that his birth certificate has been faked (or at the very least there is some explaining to do).
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Yes, as it has been explained to you over and over, this is NOT the original 1961 PDF image scanned on the 1961 version of Adobe Kenya edition of Acrobat.

The digital scan shows what happens when you take a document with anti-scan protections and by brute force quickly slam it into a format that can be displayed on the internet within the same news cycle as Obama's announcement.

As you have agreed with before, this is NOT the original document, this is a digital scan of a certified copy of the original document. The CONTENTS of this document is what was certified. The FORMAT is a red herring. And you've already admitted to this.

But you don't give a rat's ass, because you openly admit that you don't care about the truth, you care only about attacking Obama with anything you think you can make stick. You've been clear you don't care how stupid it makes you look, you will off-hand ignore all the lawful and authoritative sources of authentication.

go troll away, Troll child.

Dude,... stay out of our problem and worry about your own country.

And you have never provided any lawful source of any kind at any given time!



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Here is a document for you to read. http://www.verifyfirst.com/Documents...py12-12-03.pdf
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Dude,... stay out of our problem and worry about your own country.

And you have never provided any lawful source of any kind at any given time!



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Here is a document for you to read. http://www.verifyfirst.com/Documents...py12-12-03.pdf

What are you trying to imply? Are you now doubting MY citizenship? Seriously?

What do you want? My long form?

You must be confusing me for that Canadian Michelle Bachmann.

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So, you can't explain how the image was produced? It seems to me that is what this discussion thread is about. Everything about Obama is a fraud. It is no big surprise that his birth certificate has been faked (or at the very least there is some explaining to do).

I've already explained how it was produced. It was produced by the State of Hawaii and certified by the State of Hawaii to be a valid and lawful copy.

What part of the State of Hawaii being the lawful and binding legal authority don't you understand?

Here is how this would play out in court.

JUDGE: Mr. Obama, what proof do you have of your location of birth?

OBAMA: Here you go Judge, here are all the lawful documents:
1) Computer generated Certificate of Live Birth with raised seal.
2) Testimony of the Republican Gov. that it is true and valid.
3) Photocopy of the paper Certificate of Live Birth with state stamp
4) Letter from State of Hawaii validating it is a true copy.

JUDGE: These are all legally admissible and binding documents. You've met your burden 4 times over what any court would require. What do you have Mr. Birthtard?

DUMB-F**K BIRTHTARD: If you look here at this unofficial PDF scan, you can see that there are artifacts from the scanning process....

JUDGE: Unofficial PDF scan? WTF are you talking about? That isn't admissible. Don't you understand the difference between an original document and a scan that was produced to be quickly put on the internet in the middle of a news cycle? Get the F*** out before I put you in jail.

DUMB-F**K BIRTHTARD: But I got this from some random person on the internet, isn't that the same as evidence that came directly from the State of Hawaii??

JUDGE: That does it. Bailiff, wack his pee-pee.
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I've already explained...
You attempted to duck the question with a repost is all you did. If you can't explain how the image was produced, then just say it. It appears to be obviously edited with image editing software. It is not an effect of OCR. The image released by Obama was fake.
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      06-02-2011, 08:12 AM   #163
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Everything about Obama is a fraud.
Gee, biased much? This is why you're not qualified to have a rational debate. G.W. Bush was a fraud, but I'm not aware of anything fraudulent about Obama, although the racists like to imagine that there's fraud.
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You attempted to duck the question with a repost is all you did. If you can't explain how the image was produced, then just say it. It appears to be obviously edited with image editing software. It is not an effect of OCR. The image released by Obama was fake.
All you're doing is making insults and conjecture. You don't have any answers to anything. I suggest you give up.
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You attempted to duck the question with a repost is all you did. If you can't explain how the image was produced, then just say it. It appears to be obviously edited with image editing software. It is not an effect of OCR. The image released by Obama was fake.
Just keep on beating this dead horse. Because at this point you are basically trying to debate the existence the Easter Bunny.
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All you're doing is making insults and conjecture. You don't have any answers to anything. I suggest you give up.
Playbook page 3, next he will call Obama a socialist.
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Whats funny, is that you Obama lovers dont have one single good thing to say about Obama, yet you continue to defend Obama. Why is that?


Can any of you puppets list top 3 good things that Obama did for this country that benefited every single citizen in this US of A??
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Whats funny, is that you Obama lovers dont have one single good thing to say about Obama, yet you continue to defend Obama. Why is that? ??
Because, like everything else, this is your deluded view of reality, that's why.

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Can any of you puppets list top 3 good things that Obama did for this country that benefited every single citizen in this US of A??
I'm no puppet, dickhead.

Here's 2 tips for how to debate:
1) Never tell the opposition what they think or how they feel; it's just a thinly veiled insult. I know what I think and feel, I don't need to hear it from you. Stick to telling me what you think.
2) Don't insult.

As for Obama:
- pulled us out of the worst recession since the great depression. Stock market is up 100%, companies are healthy, and the stimulus loans have all been paid back with interest.
- tenaciously passed some degree of healthcare reform.
- ended major operations in Iraq.
- put us on the road to ending operations in Afghanistan.
- has made foreign policy advancements with Iran, N Korea, Israel, etc.
- responded quickly to several natural disasters.
- has reversed several laws/policies of the previous admin that invaded our privacy; stem cell research, don't ask don't tell, teaching creationism in public schools, federal gay marriage ban, warrantless wiretapping, etc.
- we're back in the right direction with energy and environmental policy.
- he saw through to kill Bin-Laden
- we have much better worldwide respect, now that our leader is not a redneck, fumbling asshole.

Need more?
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Because, like everything else, this is your deluded view of reality, that's why.

I'm no puppet, dickhead.

Here's 2 tips for how to debate:
1) Never tell the opposition what they think or how they feel; it's just a thinly veiled insult. I know what I think and feel, I don't need to hear it from you. Stick to telling me what you think.
2) Don't insult.

Need more?

First take your own advice, then spread it all over your friends who constantly flame our side.


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First take your own advice, then spread it all over your friends who constantly flame our side.


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Oh please, you just got done accusing me of not being a US citizen as part of your birth certificate Tourette's disorder.

Grow up. If you can't take it, don't dish it.
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Whats funny, is that you Obama lovers dont have one single good thing to say about Obama, yet you continue to defend Obama. Why is that?


Can any of you puppets list top 3 good things that Obama did for this country that benefited every single citizen in this US of A??

When losing the argument, change the subject? nice red herring.
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You attempted to duck the question with a repost is all you did. If you can't explain how the image was produced, then just say it. It appears to be obviously edited with image editing software. It is not an effect of OCR. The image released by Obama was fake.
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All you're doing is making insults and conjecture. You don't have any answers to anything. I suggest you give up.
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When losing the argument, change the subject? nice red herring.
I have made exceedingly few insults. You and your partners, in nearly every post, fling insults.

So, back on topic... What is your explanation of how the image of the birth certificate released by Obama was made without digital editing? Thus far you have offered no explanation. The best evidence demonstrates that it is not a simple scan even with OCR anomalies.
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Oh please, you just got done accusing me of not being a US citizen as part of your birth certificate Tourette's disorder.

Grow up. If you can't take it, don't dish it.

I asked if you were British or not because some one in another thread said that you are British. But you ignored my question.

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When losing the argument, change the subject? nice red herring.
Since none of you can explain one single thing but instead you and your friends throw constant insults towards our side, thus i chose to approach the subject at hand from a different angle.

I suggest you get your self Hooked on Phonics if you dont understand what i say or what i mean.

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I asked if you were British or not because some one in another thread said that you are British. But you ignored my question.



Since none of you can explain one single thing but instead you and your friends throw constant insults towards our side, thus i chose to approach the subject at hand from a different angle.

I suggest you get your self Hooked on Phonics if you dont understand what i say or what i mean.

Thanks.
Stop phishing for personal information.


This is symbolic of your entire Obama citizenship bullshit. When you don't know something, you fill your mind with delusional fantasies that are baseless and without fact. You fill your mind with imaginary stuff from anonymous "somebody" that I've never seen post, but wouldn't have ANY authority to speak for where I'm from anyways.

When confronted with your delusional fantasy, you go on the attack instead of just APOLOGIZING and admitting you don't know jack about what you are talking about. You get defensive, and refuse to admit you were wrong and try to blame everything on the people who are telling you the FACTS.

Here it is one last time:

The PDF is a generated digital scan of the original that WE KNOW contains artifacts from the process of copying the original then scanning it to PDF. It DOES NOT MATTER!!! The CONTENTS of the PDF have been validated by the only lawful authority that exists on this planet, the State of Hawaii. There is NO POINT in proving that there are artifacts from this process, when WE ALL KNOW there are artifacts from this process. Proving that there are artifacts from this process WILL NEVER change the fact that the CONTENTS have been certified as accurate by the State of Hawaii.

Will you EVER address that fact, or will you continue to blind yourself to the truth, and blame other people for your failure to accept fact and reality?
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I asked if you were British or not because some one in another thread said that you are British. But you ignored my question.



Since none of you can explain one single thing but instead you and your friends throw constant insults towards our side, thus i chose to approach the subject at hand from a different angle.

I suggest you get your self Hooked on Phonics if you dont understand what i say or what i mean.

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I already explained that one single thing. It's called gutter shadow, and it's one of the most common scanner artifacts.
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I already explained that one single thing. It's called gutter shadow, and it's one of the most common scanner artifacts.

It cant be a gutter shadow when there is no book involved.
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