Too good to be true? (yet again)

codizle915 · 05-17-2011, 12:22 AM

BIMMERPOST / Classifieds

Asking Price:
None

Item Interest

I just found a listing for a e92 Alpine white M3 with 11k miles for only 33k, i emailed the seller and this was the response i got:

Hello there,

Thank you for your interest in my 2009 BMW M3. The car is in excellent running condition (no damages, accidents or scratches of course) and comes with a clear title, has only 11,010 miles. There is no lien on the car, there will be no monthly payments, no take over payments, just final price ($33,500). There is a reason for selling it for such a low price. I am passing through a divorce with my husband and I need to get rid of it fast.
I am located in Utah and I have the vehicle with me. I will ship it from here on my expense through DAS (Dependable Auto Shippers).
Giving the nature of this transaction we can escrow the payment with Google Checkout, and this way you're not buying something sight unseen. If you are not aware of this program you should know that it will allow you to test drive and inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 15-days inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or not before they release the funds to me.
If you are still interested just let me know and I'll get back to you with further details about the transaction.

You can see more photos of the car here:

Looking forward to hearing from you,
A*** M****

Thoughts?

gnhm3 · 05-17-2011, 12:32 AM

How can you even for a second believe this is real?

1. Not local
2. Price is way too good to be true
3. Divorce/ My husband bs story.

codizle915 · 05-17-2011, 12:39 AM

A man can dream ...î

Deep down, I knew it was fake all along haha

Sorry for the stupid thread

Bluesummer · 05-17-2011, 12:42 AM

Tell her that you would fly to Utah

mikshroy · 05-17-2011, 02:22 AM

My friend just told me about this and he got the same email. Also, google "google escrow" and you will see all the scams that are happening with it.

Spyharpy · 05-17-2011, 02:57 AM

Note the focus of the email is not so much about the car but more about how to channel the payment to him to make it harder for you to get it or any portion of it back. Most legitimate sellers will not give you this kind of BS story. The moment you say you'll have someone there to inspect the car or you'll fly down to so see it in person, his story will change again. Guaranteed. These scams always have two components: a ridiculously low price to lure your attention and a non-traditional method to buy the alleged car while focusing on the "deposit" using a payment method that will not get you a refund. RUN AWAY!

gthal · 05-17-2011, 05:16 AM

This is a scam! It happens all of the time with very similar divorce stories and wanting to ship. If you go to see the car you will be wasting your airfare and time because it doesn't exist.

BayerischeMotorenWerke · 05-17-2011, 02:27 PM

If you have to ask...you should already know. Please email her saying you'll fly out to Utah with cash and you want to see the car.

theriz · 05-17-2011, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BayerischeMotorenWerke

If you have to ask...you should already know. Please email her saying you'll fly out to Utah with cash and you want to see the car.

+1

Tell us what she says.

benzo23 · 05-17-2011, 03:27 PM

HAHAHAHA this reminds me of a yamaha r1 i found on craigslist for 3k, same exact story with the shipping and the escrow and the 15 day bullshit...major scam

335OK · 05-17-2011, 04:10 PM

fly there, take the car to the local dealer.
its only 2 hours flight.
but we guess you will not see her after you get there.
confirm all the address and phone number....before you book your ticket.

jzbm3 · 05-17-2011, 04:31 PM

If you have to ask the question, the answer is always yes.

If you are actually this desperate to sell your car, walk into a dealer (BMW, Nissan, Vespa, whatever...) and they will have no problem cutting you a check for a car priced at $20-30k below book value.

elp_jc · 05-17-2011, 11:51 PM

I've said it a million times before: Just ask for a phone number to discuss car deal over the phone. Scammers will never provide it, for obvious reasons. And even if they did, no deposits, and copy of title and driver's license before any trip arangement is made.

AngelinIsRich08 · 05-18-2011, 10:01 PM

I had a similar incident with an M3 last year. It was an '09 coupe for $39k. Guy selling it was Johan. The only numbers he has listed were fax numbers and he wanted the money through google. He even had the correct VIN numbers too. And his story was of divorce too, said he'd personally drive it to my home too. Haha.

05-17-2011, 12:22 AM	#1
codizle915 Private First Class Drives: YMP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 103 iTrader: (0)	Too good to be true? (yet again) BIMMERPOST / Classifieds Asking Price: None Item Interest I just found a listing for a e92 Alpine white M3 with 11k miles for only 33k, i emailed the seller and this was the response i got: Hello there, Thank you for your interest in my 2009 BMW M3. The car is in excellent running condition (no damages, accidents or scratches of course) and comes with a clear title, has only 11,010 miles. There is no lien on the car, there will be no monthly payments, no take over payments, just final price ($33,500). There is a reason for selling it for such a low price. I am passing through a divorce with my husband and I need to get rid of it fast. I am located in Utah and I have the vehicle with me. I will ship it from here on my expense through DAS (Dependable Auto Shippers). Giving the nature of this transaction we can escrow the payment with Google Checkout, and this way you're not buying something sight unseen. If you are not aware of this program you should know that it will allow you to test drive and inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 15-days inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or not before they release the funds to me. If you are still interested just let me know and I'll get back to you with further details about the transaction. You can see more photos of the car here: Looking forward to hearing from you, A* M Thoughts? __________________ "I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul." -** William Ernest Henley
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05-17-2011, 12:32 AM	#2
gnhm3 Major Drives: 12' e92 m3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: West LA Posts: 1,373 iTrader: (17)	How can you even for a second believe this is real? 1. Not local 2. Price is way too good to be true 3. Divorce/ My husband bs story. __________________

05-17-2011, 12:39 AM	#3
codizle915 Private First Class Drives: YMP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 103 iTrader: (0)	A man can dream ...î Deep down, I knew it was fake all along haha Sorry for the stupid thread __________________ "I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul." - William Ernest Henley

05-17-2011, 12:42 AM	#4
Bluesummer Lieutenant General Drives: slower than Ayrton Senna Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nürburgring, be there once, your heart, your soul will stay there. Posts: 15,324 iTrader: (13) Garage List 2011 E82 135 [0.00] 2011 M3 [0.00] 2007 335 [0.00]	Tell her that you would fly to Utah __________________ R.I.P. Steve Noh

05-17-2011, 05:16 AM	#7
gthal Colonel Drives: C63 coupe Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,055 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 M3 [3.37]	This is a scam! It happens all of the time with very similar divorce stories and wanting to ship. If you go to see the car you will be wasting your airfare and time because it doesn't exist. __________________ 2014 Corvette Stingray \| Cyber Grey \| Z51 \| On order... 2012 C63 coupe \| Obsidian Black \| Performance Package (481hp, 443ft/lbs) \| Sold 2011 M3 coupe \| Jerez Black \| ZCP/DCT \| Sold but never forgotten nor will the love affair end 2010 M3 coupe \| Alpine White \| 6MT \| Sold

05-17-2011, 02:22 AM	#5
mikshroy Enlisted Member Drives: 335i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 49 iTrader: (0)	My friend just told me about this and he got the same email. Also, google "google escrow" and you will see all the scams that are happening with it.

05-17-2011, 02:57 AM	#6
Spyharpy New Member Drives: M3 in the midst Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6 iTrader: (0)	Note the focus of the email is not so much about the car but more about how to channel the payment to him to make it harder for you to get it or any portion of it back. Most legitimate sellers will not give you this kind of BS story. The moment you say you'll have someone there to inspect the car or you'll fly down to so see it in person, his story will change again. Guaranteed. These scams always have two components: a ridiculously low price to lure your attention and a non-traditional method to buy the alleged car while focusing on the "deposit" using a payment method that will not get you a refund. RUN AWAY!

05-17-2011, 02:27 PM	#8
BayerischeMotorenWerke Second Lieutenant Drives: slowly and carefully Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Motel 6 Posts: 259 iTrader: (0)	If you have to ask...you should already know. Please email her saying you'll fly out to Utah with cash and you want to see the car.

05-17-2011, 03:27 PM	#10
benzo23 Colonel Drives: 11 e92 AW MSport Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: FL Posts: 2,418 iTrader: (0)	HAHAHAHA this reminds me of a yamaha r1 i found on craigslist for 3k, same exact story with the shipping and the escrow and the 15 day bullshit...major scam

05-17-2011, 04:10 PM	#11
335OK Private First Class Drives: E93 M3 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: CA Posts: 129 iTrader: (0)	fly there, take the car to the local dealer. its only 2 hours flight. but we guess you will not see her after you get there. confirm all the address and phone number....before you book your ticket.

05-17-2011, 04:31 PM	#12
jzbm3 Lieutenant Drives: E90 JZB M3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 525 iTrader: (13)	If you have to ask the question, the answer is always yes. If you are actually this desperate to sell your car, walk into a dealer (BMW, Nissan, Vespa, whatever...) and they will have no problem cutting you a check for a car priced at $20-30k below book value. __________________ E90 M3 // Jerez Black // 6MT Dinan, MS stage 1, V1 hardwired, LUX angel eyes

05-17-2011, 11:51 PM	#13
elp_jc Brigadier General Drives: . Join Date: May 2008 Location: . Posts: 4,912 iTrader: (0)	I've said it a million times before: Just ask for a phone number to discuss car deal over the phone. Scammers will never provide it, for obvious reasons. And even if they did, no deposits, and copy of title and driver's license before any trip arangement is made.

05-18-2011, 10:01 PM	#14
AngelinIsRich08 Banned Drives: '11 X5M, '09 CTS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 709 iTrader: (0)	I had a similar incident with an M3 last year. It was an '09 coupe for $39k. Guy selling it was Johan. The only numbers he has listed were fax numbers and he wanted the money through google. He even had the correct VIN numbers too. And his story was of divorce too, said he'd personally drive it to my home too. Haha.

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