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      04-15-2017, 02:03 PM   #1
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GTS Wheels and Recommended Tire Size

Does anyone have experience with running a 275/30-19 or 265/30-19 (F) and 295/30-19 (R) on the 359M/GTS wheel without spacers? I have a non-competition package E92 M3 with stock suspension and I want absolute zero rub.

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The M3 GTS is equipped with 255/35-19 front and 285/30-19 rear tires from the factory. You could go with that fitment, or jump up to 265/30-19 up front.

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The M3 GTS is equipped with 255/35-19 front and 285/30-19 rear tires from the factory. You could go with that fitment, or jump up to 265/30-19 up front.

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What tire brand are they?
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What tire brand are they?
Pirelli P Zero Corsa's, however you could go with Continental Extremecontact Sport, Bridgestone S0-4 Pole Position, or the Khumo Ecsta PS91 in the same sizes.
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Thanks for the help, but I'm really not a fan of the GTS sizes because the rear's are actually slightly smaller in diameter than the front's. I'm really on the fence with this! I want to maintain as much sidewall as I can because of the roads around here, but I also want as wide as I can go.
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Thanks for the help, but I'm really not a fan of the GTS sizes because the rear's are actually slightly smaller in diameter than the front's. I'm really on the fence with this! I want to maintain as much sidewall as I can because of the roads around here, but I also want as wide as I can go.
Go with the GTS size on the front and 295/30/19 on the rear. This way you'll have the same diameter front to rear. 295/30/19 it a little wide for a 10" wheel but it will fit.
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Thanks for the help, but I'm really not a fan of the GTS sizes because the rear's are actually slightly smaller in diameter than the front's. I'm really on the fence with this! I want to maintain as much sidewall as I can because of the roads around here, but I also want as wide as I can go.
Understood. If you are looking for taller sidewalls for more protection/comfort, I would run 255/35-19 front, and 275/35-19 rear. These tires are the perfect widths for the 9" and 10" wheels at play.

It is certainly possible to mount 275/30-19 on the front 9" wheels, and 295/30-19 on the rear 10" wheels, however this would not be ideal. From a handling perspective, it would be best to have wider front and rear wheels for proper sidewall support.

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Does anyone have experience with running a 275/30-19 or 265/30-19 (F) and 295/30-19 (R) on the 359M/GTS wheel without spacers? I have a non-competition package E92 M3 with stock suspension and I want absolute zero rub.

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If you want zero rub, stick with the OEM ZCP tire sizes (245/35R19 and 265/35R19), or run the slightly wider and slightly taller size like most of us (255/35R19 and 275/35R19).

I can tell you that even on a tire that's wide for its size, the 255/275 combo does not rub. It's still a lot of tire for a street-driven car.
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If you want zero rub, stick with the OEM ZCP tire sizes (245/35R19 and 265/35R19), or run the slightly wider and slightly taller size like most of us (255/35R19 and 275/35R19).

I can tell you that even on a tire that's wide for its size, the 255/275 combo does not rub. It's still a lot of tire for a street-driven car.
How noticeable those extra 5mm on the width are? I like the idea of a slightly taller/wider tire, but like the way the OEM sizes seat on the wheels.
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I know a lot of people recommend 255/35-19 but I tried those (Michelin PSS) when I had my Morr wheels. They were a 19"x9" with a +22 offset, which put them 9mm further out than the GTS +31mm, and they rubbed on the inside wheel well when turned 1/2-3/4 of lock. I know they used this wheel on the GTS, but I wonder if they used a different liner or left it off all together.
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How noticeable those extra 5mm on the width are? I like the idea of a slightly taller/wider tire, but like the way the OEM sizes seat on the wheels.
Depends on the specific tire. They don't look out of place and 9/10 people won't be able to tell the difference; those sizes just give you a much bigger selection of tires without making a big change to the overall size. The F80 M3/M4 actually switched to these sizes as OEM.
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Does anyone have experience with running a 275/30-19 or 265/30-19 (F) and 295/30-19 (R) on the 359M/GTS wheel without spacers? I have a non-competition package E92 M3 with stock suspension and I want absolute zero rub.

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I think the best sizes for the ZCP wheels and the E9X in general are 255/35/19 and 285/35/19... MPSS.

It should look pretty good and wide and it should even make the ride better. All that while improving performance and I think any size bigger is overkill.

Stay away from the 30 sidewall it will only be a little wider but you sacrifice your ride quality significantly.
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Thanks for all the help! I may try the 255/35-19 & 275/35-19 again on these wheels. As I said earlier, this combination rubbed with my Morr wheels on the front axle fender liners, but I'm hoping the 9mm difference in offset will eliminate that. If it doesn't work, I may have some very lightly used tires for sale
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Depends on the specific tire. They don't look out of place and 9/10 people won't be able to tell the difference; those sizes just give you a much bigger selection of tires without making a big change to the overall size. The F80 M3/M4 actually switched to these sizes as OEM.
I thought the F80s had wider wheels. I should try your recommendation on tire sizes on my next change. Running P Zeros now (P Zero, PS, P Zero again). Thank you.
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I thought the F80s had wider wheels. I should try your recommendation on tire sizes on my next change. Running P Zeros now (P Zero, PS, P Zero again). Thank you.
The E9x ZCP wheels are 19x9 and 19x10. The F8x wheels are the exact same widths yet wear the 255/275 tire sizes I mentioned.
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The E9x ZCP wheels are 19x9 and 19x10. The F8x wheels are the exact same widths yet wear the 255/275 tire sizes I mentioned.
Noted. Thanks again.
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Well, I finally took the plunge and purchased Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires in 255/35-19 and 275/35-19 yesterday for my M3. Thanks for everyone's input!

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You needed 255/35/19 not 255/30/19
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You needed 255/35/19 not 255/30/19
You're right...typo!
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That's what I run as well. Good choice. the 359s add 1cm to trackwidth (due to offsets) and those tires add another 1cm.
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Well went with the 275/35-19 and 255/35-19 Michelin Pilot 4S and absolutely love the setup. Used McGard black lug bolts/locks, black valve stems and black wheel weights.
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Those 4S tires look good
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