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      12-09-2015, 07:03 PM   #1
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Will it rub?

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Front 19 x 9.5 et27
Rear 19 x 11 et21

can I run 265x30 on the front and 295x30 on rear without rubbing?

Tires are shot and had 245 x 35 and 285 x 30 prior w/15mm spacer in rear and no rubbing.

What setup would be best for this?? E92 stock w/o any mods.

Thanks in advance..
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      12-09-2015, 08:14 PM   #2
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With the right off-set you should be fine. I run a 20X11 with a 305/25-20 in the rear with no rubbing and a 20X9.5 in the front with a 255/30-20. Plus my car is lowered with H&R springs.
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      12-10-2015, 03:27 PM   #3
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With the right off-set you should be fine. I run a 20X11 with a 305/25-20 in the rear with no rubbing and a 20X9.5 in the front with a 255/30-20. Plus my car is lowered with H&R springs.
What offset are you running?
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I have seen people running 305 setup in the rear without any rum issues. I think that's the widest you can go
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      12-13-2015, 02:59 PM   #5
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You probably won't be able to run a 305 with a ET21 on the 11" wide wheel. A 295 will be pretty darn close. I am running a ET25 out back and it is pretty aggressive. You may have to get a little more neg camber to get it to fit.

I am on the OEM ZCP and have no rubbing with my setup.

Remember, every car is a little different. Some cars rub with 295s out back with the ET25 on a 11" width wheel.

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      12-14-2015, 05:08 PM   #6
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To Cravin01. I will get that info for you soon.
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      12-16-2015, 08:31 AM   #7
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To Cravin01. I will get that info for you soon.
let me know please...Thank you..
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You are right at the limit in the rear with the 295 on a 19x11 et21, and as Dave mentioned, it will come down to some variables like ride height, tire brand and camber settings. I would bet that without any negative camber back there, you will get rubbing under compression. We offer an 11" wheel with an offset of et25, and with a 295 tire it is very close with a stock alignment.

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You can go up to 315 with an ET of 34, even with a 20inch tire. 315 is max though without modification
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You can go up to 315 with an ET of 34, even with a 20inch tire. 315 is max though without modification
OP's offset is et21.
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You are right at the limit in the rear with the 295 on a 19x11 et21, and as Dave mentioned, it will come down to some variables like ride height, tire brand and camber settings. I would bet that without any negative camber back there, you will get rubbing under compression. We offer an 11" wheel with an offset of et25, and with a 295 tire it is very close with a stock alignment.

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What if I used a 5mm spacer? Would that help??
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What if I used a 5mm spacer? Would that help??
Spacers only push the wheel further out towards the fender, which exacerbates the potential rubbing problem. In other words, spacers are good for scenarios where inner clearance to the suspension is a problem, or if a wheels offset is considered too weak, and leaves the wheel sunken into the fender.

A 5mm spacer would change your et21 offset to an et16 offset. Make sense?

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      12-17-2015, 02:28 PM   #13
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Yes.. thank you for the explanation...

I may just have to run 285/35/19 on these wheels...Would that tire size work??
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      12-18-2015, 10:23 PM   #14
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Yes.. thank you for the explanation...

I may just have to run 285/35/19 on these wheels...Would that tire size work??
That is way to tall...that is a 27" tall tire, that alone may cause it to rub. Not to mention that you are at the limit for maximum wheel width for a 285 tire, which is fine. You may get some rubbing with 295/30/19 but it would be where the rear fascia and body panel come together. You may have to run just a little more negative camber. You didn't mention what tire are you going to run? I would stay away from tires with very square shoulders like a Yoko AD008.
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      12-19-2015, 01:24 PM   #15
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I meant to write 285/30/19.... will be running Toyo T1 Sport or PSS.

If I put a 275/30 on the rear will it stretch the tire and look bad?
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I meant to write 285/30/19.... will be running Toyo T1 Sport or PSS.

If I put a 275/30 on the rear will it stretch the tire and look bad?
Mich PSS are only available in the run flats at that size. I had the Toyo T1Sport, it was a pretty good tire. Nice sidewall, but overall grip wasn't up to the Mich PSS. You should also look into the Conti SportContact 5P non runflat. I thought those were on par with my Mich PSS in my 275/30/19 and 295/30/19 size. I think you may be OK with a 295 out back since you aren't lowered. It will be close though.

A 275 tire will be way stretched on a 11" wide wheel, even a 285 will be at maximum recommended wheel width.

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Looking at actual section width and tread width you have a couple options.

Easiest to fit would be Yokohoma ado8 in 275/30/19. Because it has such a wide section width and tread width it doesn't look too stretched.

You can get a Pilot super sport in 275/35/19 which will have similar dimensions (in fact 11 inch is within the spec for this particular tire)

You can get something like an Advan v105 in 285/30/19 but it's actually narrower slightly than the other 2

Or you can get a hankook v12 in 295/30/19 which is probably the narrowest brand to fit... In fact I think they run even narrower than The PSS I mentioned.

From what I searched... Those sizes I mention will work with a 19x10.5 et22 which is what I have.
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I think you bought my old wheels (from Nguyener?). I also think you meant 15mm spacer on the front not rear.

I was lowered on H&R sport springs and ran 285/30 Hankooks because the PSS didn't come in that size but would have opted for the Michelins if I could. With the Hankooks I was able to run a 5mm spacer so I think a 295 would fit.... I was actually considering going to 255(f)/295(r) with no rear spacer but got new wheels altogether instead. The 5mm spacer (and so I'm guessing the 295 would be the same) rubbed on hard dips but barely and wasn't an issue. 285 was no rubbing at all. Again these were hankooks so sidewall might differ a little with Michelins.

Hope this helps. Enjoy the wheels and please take care of them (and post pics!). They are a really really great setup!
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      12-24-2015, 12:22 PM   #19
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thank you for the feedback. Yes, the spacers are for the front. I have a set of 265/30 PSS that I am going to run on the front and 295 on rear. I hope the front will not rub but will have to see what happens. Also hoping the rears won't rub but the shop I am getting these installed said I could test them and return them for different size if not satisfied. Were you going to run 255/35 or 30 on the front?

I am looking for a set of valve stems that will fit these wheels and will work with my oem tpms. The stem hole on these wheels are smaller than oem wheels and I can't get the oem stem through the smaller hole. Did you use tpms when you had the wheels..

I will post pics when these are installed.

Many thanks,
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Not sure if 255/35 or 255/30. I wanted a wider tire but didn't get far enough in the process to actually check which would be best. I suggest using a tire calculator to see which is closest to OEM diameter/sizing.

I did run OEM TPMS, but had to find an 8mm valve stem. I was fortunate enough to find a set on this forum, BBS brand. I believe these were them: http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/BBS0915036.htm

I can't be 100% sure these are the exact one since I bought them used from a forum member, but I did contact Work who confirmed the 8mm size (where OEM and most stems are 11mm). They had to do this to maintain the rigidity of the wheel they said.
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Thank you so much for the info... Muchly appreciated...
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A 265/30 or 275/30 in the front will work with OEM suspension or lowering springs and -1.7 camber. You will need a spacer if you have coilovers that reduce inner clearance (such as KW).

285/30 in the rear will work, as you know. 295/30 is unlikely but possible depending on how wide the tire runs. I ran 295's on 11"et25 and they barely fit BUT the tires were BFG Rivals which run very wide. You will need some negative camber in the rear too.
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