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      02-25-2007, 06:43 PM   #1
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Smile Official Geneva Auto Show Debut List

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is anyone going? new m3 debute
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      02-25-2007, 06:53 PM   #2
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and though we all knew this was happening, its good to see it in writing in a reputable publication.
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      02-25-2007, 07:04 PM   #3
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and though we all knew this was happening, its good to see it in writing in a reputable publication.
Agreed.
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Gotta' say though, that Audi S5 looks pretty nice! Though, if the S5 only undercuts the new M3 by a few grand, I think the market is going to see that most people would rather spend another $3 or $4K for the extra 60-85HP. And YOU KNOW, the M3 is going to get crazy press attention on the incredible reviews like no other car can.
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      02-25-2007, 07:14 PM   #5
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      02-25-2007, 07:16 PM   #6
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Gotta' say though, that Audi S5 looks pretty nice! Though, if the S5 only undercuts the new M3 by a few grand, I think the market is going to see that most people would rather spend another $3 or $4K for the extra 60-85HP. And YOU KNOW, the M3 is going to get crazy press attention on the incredible reviews like no other car can.
i also think that a lot of people would be willing to pay those few extra grand just on the basis of the M reputation alone. its a division regaled in accolades and critical acclaim. and while audi has a lot of great things going for it, i dont think their S division has the kind of brand loyalty that BMW or M has currently.
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      02-25-2007, 07:19 PM   #7
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Don't forget that BMW will cover all the service on the M and Audi owners will be paying through the nose.
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S5 and M3 looking might good
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Looking at that list of cars, I think all cars need to have the reverse swinging doors like the RR convertible has.

It makes more sense from an ergonomoics standpoint if you as me. You always are trying to swing your feet out first when you exit a car. Therefore, you should have more room to do so. Also, when entering, the first thing in is your feet. Having more room to do that would seem much more reasonable... Just MHO...

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      02-25-2007, 09:02 PM   #11
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I'm going!! :rocks: I'm so excited, I almost feel like going and buying a better camera for it, i'll be sure to upload good pics when I get back.
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      02-25-2007, 09:04 PM   #12
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I am curious how they are keeping it under 3500 lbs.
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      02-25-2007, 09:13 PM   #13
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Not possible. EVERY M car is about 200lbs heavier than the top of the line series car. Here's a few examples...
Z4 3.0is = 3000lbs, MZ4 = 3200-3300 lbs
550i = 3800 lbs, M5 = 4000lbs
E46 330 = 3200-3300, E46M3 = 3400lbs

Although the M models have some nice light weight materials, you need beefier suspension/brakes/wheels/LSD/Engine/Tranny and everything else I missed so it's going to be a couple hundred pounds heavier than the 335i so you're looking at a 3750-3800lb if history repeats....
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      02-25-2007, 09:16 PM   #14
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That is why I was surprised by the C&D figure of "under 3500 lbs"
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      02-25-2007, 09:26 PM   #15
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ur going? wow your mad lucky...plz post numerous m3 pics
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also, i know this a bmw forum but i can't help, the lexus and new evo look pretty good as well. too bad the new skyline is not debuteing...
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also, i know this a bmw forum but i can't help, the lexus and new evo look pretty good as well. too bad the new skyline is not debuteing...
it's possible. if they put E46 M3 CSL specs on the standard one they could easy keep it under 3500 lbs. carbon bumpers roof light wheels. aluminum trunk and hood. no problem. i mean realistically none of that stuff is THAT expensive. its only expensive when produced in low quantities.
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I AM DEFINITELY GONNA BE THERE...WOULDN'T MISS IT FOR THE WORLD! CAN'T WAIT TO CHECK OUT THE NEW M3, AUDI A5 COUPE AND MASERATI GRANTURISMO!! DON'T WORRY, I'LL TAKE LOADS OF PICS FOR Y'ALL TO DROOL AT
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i have heard the new m3 will be having a carbon fiber roof first launching with smgIII later on stick. but also later on smgIII and stick with retractable carbon fiber roof not too long from release. so i am a bit curious on how the sales of coupe and conv will be. either way go m3
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      02-26-2007, 12:49 AM   #21
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how long after the debut do you think it will be until the press get to drive them?
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How would i go about purchasing tickets? I might have the opportunity to make it.
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