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      02-21-2011, 04:19 PM   #1
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Question for ZCP owners.

Guys, I just ordered my ZCP sedan on Saturday. I love the bigger wheels and the lowered suspension but have not had the chance to ride it.

I hear a lot of people now talking that ZCP ride is a lot stiffer than reg M3 and for a daily driver it might not be the best idea, So, what do you guys think, is it really that bad. Should I drop the ZCP option and go with a plain M3 instead.

This question becomes even more relevant now since the gain in performance from a reg M3 is not as noticeable. or is it???
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Guys, I just ordered my ZCP sedan on Saturday. I love the bigger wheels and the lowered suspension but have not had the chance to ride it.

I hear a lot of people now talking that ZCP ride is a lot stiffer than reg M3 and for a daily driver it might not be the best idea, So, what do you guys think, is it really that bad. Should I drop the ZCP option and go with a plain M3 instead.

This question becomes even more relevant now since the gain in performance from a reg M3 is not as noticeable. or is it???
Who? That isn't something you will hear around here. I hope you are not swayed by JC's "astute" observation that when set to it's firmest setting EDC is stiffer than in Normal.
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i suspect that the stiffer ZCP ride has caused my interior to have plastic sounding rattles especially over shitty LA roads and freeways. my brand new 328i has a few of the same rattles here and there but not nearly as bad traveling over the same roads, as it has a softer suspension, more tire profile and such.

so yea, if u have shitty bumpy roads around your area, its possible that u may not like the stiffer ride
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no complaints with my ZCP choice. Honestly it comes down to your preference tho. I test drove both a ZCP and non ZCP M3 (both with edc), and could not feel a difference in normal or comfort mode. Maybe my a$$ isn't that sensitive tho...
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Guys, I just ordered my ZCP sedan on Saturday. I love the bigger wheels and the lowered suspension but have not had the chance to ride it.

I hear a lot of people now talking that ZCP ride is a lot stiffer than reg M3 and for a daily driver it might not be the best idea, So, what do you guys think, is it really that bad. Should I drop the ZCP option and go with a plain M3 instead.

This question becomes even more relevant now since the gain in performance from a reg M3 is not as noticeable. or is it???
ZCP is stiffer, but not by a "lot." After driving a 2008 M3 for several years, turned it in at the end of the lease and drove home a 2011 ZCP M3. On the freeway back home, the stiffer ride was immediately noticeable. After driving a car for several years, it's something you notice right away. But, can't be sure if it's due to non-ZCP vs ZCP or 18" vs 19" wheels. Anyhow, it's something you get used to and, now (4 months later), I don't even notice it.


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i suspect that the stiffer ZCP ride has caused my interior to have plastic sounding rattles especially over shitty LA roads and freeways. my brand new 328i has a few of the same rattles here and there but not nearly as bad traveling over the same roads, as it has a softer suspension, more tire profile and such.

so yea, if u have shitty bumpy roads around your area, its possible that u may not like the stiffer ride
My ZCP suddenly started making the creek/rattle sound yesterday. Not metallic sound; rather, plastic/leather sound. All over the interior. Not at fast speed; only when you're rolling & turning at slow speeds (parking lots, driveway, etc). Very annoying. My 2008 never did that but, at this point, I'm not ready to attribute it to ZCP, though. I'll take the car in soon to have it looked at. I went over several potholes recently (not enough to damage the wheels/tires or anything) and I'm wondering if that somehow loosened something under the car that affects torsional rigidity...
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ZCP is quite comfortable. The EDC offers a variety of stiffness options with Comfort Mode quite comfortable and as soft as I'd ever want it to be. Even my wife thinks it's a comfortable ride.

The ZCP option is a must unless you have plans to change your wheels out.
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My ZCP suddenly started making the creek/rattle sound yesterday. Not metallic sound; rather, plastic/leather sound. All over the interior. Not at fast speed; only when you're rolling & turning at slow speeds (parking lots, driveway, etc). Very annoying. My 2008 never did that but, at this point, I'm not ready to attribute it to ZCP, though. I'll take the car in soon to have it looked at.
Yes, exactly what i am talking about...u hardly hear shit going 65+...always the city slow driving over small bumps and road imperfections that you hear these noises...nothing mechanical, just cheapo plastic getting loose or whatever....i was going to take it in but the SA said i would have to leave my car there for several days as they dont see rattles a priority and would have to fix it "on their time." And they would have to attempt a fix, drive it to see if it fixed it, then if not, drive it again, rinse and repeat...i said to hell with it...i dont want them taking apart my car trying to fix it AND driving it all over town when i can easily do it myself if i had a passenger to spot them out for me. Also, the roads where my dealer is are brand new and smooth as silk. i never hear anything driving over newly paved roads...so most likely, my car would sit there for a week and come back with "could not duplicate issue...etc"
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no complaints with my ZCP choice. Honestly it comes down to your preference tho. I test drove both a ZCP and non ZCP M3 (both with edc), and could not feel a difference in normal or comfort mode. Maybe my a$$ isn't that sensitive tho...
Did they both have 19"s?
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ZCP is quite comfortable. The EDC offers a variety of stiffness options with Comfort Mode quite comfortable and as soft as I'd ever want it to be. Even my wife thinks it's a comfortable ride.

The ZCP option is a must unless you have plans to change your wheels out.
Is the 'comfort' mode the default mode at startup?
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Guys, I just ordered my ZCP sedan on Saturday. I love the bigger wheels and the lowered suspension but have not had the chance to ride it.

I hear a lot of people now talking that ZCP ride is a lot stiffer than reg M3 and for a daily driver it might not be the best idea, So, what do you guys think, is it really that bad. Should I drop the ZCP option and go with a plain M3 instead.

This question becomes even more relevant now since the gain in performance from a reg M3 is not as noticeable. or is it???
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Is the 'comfort' mode the default mode at startup?
the default EDC mode at startup is whatever you choose it to be
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I was under the impression zcp vs non-zcp differed primarily in SPORTS mode and not under NORMAL or COMFORT modes (and of course the wheels may contribute too). can someone please comment on this?
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I was under the impression zcp vs non-zcp differed primarily in SPORTS mode and not under NORMAL or COMFORT modes (and of course the wheels may contribute too). can someone please comment on this?
afaik you are correct, Normal and Comfort are the same with zcp or non-zcp...but perhaps some are eluding to the 10mm lower ride height difference....


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yes...but you can always change that with your m key settings...
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i got ZCP purely for the wheels and factory lowering...i didnt care about the ride..at the time, i just assumed it would be better than non-zcp
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You are asking the wrong question. Question should be 18s vs. 19s. If you are set on getting 19s, ZCP will make little difference. If you want most comfort get 18s and EDC so you can set it to comfort.
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Jeramy Clarkson says ZCP sucks. How dare you get ZCP after the great Clarkson has spoken.
Jeremy Clarkson loves to take the piss though... on a seriousness scale its hard to believe him...
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As mentioned, wheel/tire(sidewall) size make a noticable difference. I have the ZCP but have swapped out the 19's for 235/40 18 snow tires all round. In comfort mode, it's almost like riding in a 1960's Caddy!
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OP... do yourself a favor, go drive a ZCP e92 and a non ZCP e92 and decide for yourself which feels better. I think you'll find that the difference, if any, is negligible. But again, the only opinion that matters here is yours. A little consumer self-education will go a long way in making you happy with your decision. Let us know what you decide.
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The only difference between zcp and non zcp is the sport mode, of which I never intend to use, plus I much prefer the non zcp wheels, made it a no brained. Zcp is all looks and marketing.
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