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      03-27-2011, 11:48 PM   #45
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Some great bargains from Japan, but stock for stock, I can't think of any that outperform either the e46 or e9x M3 during their time. GTR excluded.
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      03-28-2011, 07:04 AM   #46
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The 991 GT3 with PDK should be wicked. It will likely be late 2013 before we see one. I'm in.
This will likely be my next car assuming I can afford it. I figure I will drive the GT-R for a couple of years and then make the jump.
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      03-29-2011, 10:32 AM   #47
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All wheel drive is the major reason, the car just goes, no fuss at the line.. and of course FI which means a whole lot of torque.
The gearing is also very short.

4.056 1st gear
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      04-10-2011, 12:55 PM   #48
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2012 GT-R Pros/Cons

I have had the car for about a month and put nearly 2000 miles on it. So I feel I have a fairly accurate impression of the vehicle. Hereís a short list.
Pros:
- Staggering performance-it is quicker than my 2009 GT-R(0-60 3.1 versus 3.5, 0-100 7.2 versus 8.3, quarter 11.2 @ 124.5 versus 11.8@118)
-Slightly better apperance-though Iím not crazy about LED running lights
-Brakes are superior (though theyíre squeaking like an old truck right now)
-I can actually notice a significant difference in the various suspension, transmission, and traction settings modes. In my 09 GTR I couldnít really tell a big difference.
-Launch Control-those crazy fast times are partially due to a real LC.
Note: at least in my GT-R, the car goes into some hobbled performance setting after a few launches.
Cons:
-the default suspension setting- I know most people like the softer ride, I donít. It feels way too sloppy around corners and on uneven roads.
-the car still makes all kinds of weird mechanical noises.
-the interior is still weak. I wish Nissan offered a ton of upgrade options, like Porsche. I would have spent $10-$20k more on refinement.
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      04-10-2011, 03:55 PM   #49
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I have had the car for about a month and put nearly 2000 miles on it. So I feel I have a fairly accurate impression of the vehicle. Hereís a short list.
Pros:
- Staggering performance-it is quicker than my 2009 GT-R(0-60 3.1 versus 3.5, 0-100 7.2 versus 8.3, quarter 11.2 @ 124.5 versus 11.8@118)
-Slightly better apperance-though Iím not crazy about LED running lights
-Brakes are superior (though theyíre squeaking like an old truck right now)
-I can actually notice a significant difference in the various suspension, transmission, and traction settings modes. In my 09 GTR I couldnít really tell a big difference.
-Launch Control-those crazy fast times are partially due to a real LC.
Note: at least in my GT-R, the car goes into some hobbled performance setting after a few launches.
Cons:
-the default suspension setting- I know most people like the softer ride, I donít. It feels way too sloppy around corners and on uneven roads.
-the car still makes all kinds of weird mechanical noises.
-the interior is still weak. I wish Nissan offered a ton of upgrade options, like Porsche. I would have spent $10-$20k more on refinement.
I'll add my review after having my car for close the 3 weeks and 800 miles. I, too, had another GT-R before this one which was a 2011 model.

I honestly can't tell a huge difference in the suspension between this car and my 2011. Comfort mode might be a little softer, but the difference isn't huge. I have noticed the car gets a little floaty in comfort mode if you are really getting after it. I haven't driven much in normal mode yet because the manual suggests leaving the car in comfort mode until the 1200 mile mark to allow the suspension to fully settle.

I can definitely tell the extra power is there. At normal speeds it is almost like having a warp drive when you bury the throttle. I'm not sure my license will survive this car, but at least I'll be having fun up until the time I lose it. Also, based on what some other owners are doing I should be able to turn my GT-R into a high 10 second car with only a mid-pipe and exhaust. Since that is about as far as I tend to mod the car I'm glad there are gains to be had with these simple bolt-ons.

Since my 2011 had some of the upgrades like the better MFD and auto headlights the interior changes don't seem that huge to me. I do like the darker trim and carbon fiber inside, but after I got used to those it doesn't really feel that different inside. Of course, I'm one who likes the GT-R's interior and thinks it is pretty close to the standard M3 and 911 interior, both of which I have owned.

I really like the exterior changes. The new front end has a more aggressive look that has gotten a lot of positive feedback from people I know. The LED driving lights look okay, but I feel like Nissan is just trying to jump on the LED driving light bandwagon like every other manufacturer out there. The new premium wheels are a nice improvement in my eyes over the previous car in both looks and weight.

Driving the 2012 I have noticed a few changes. The steering feels a little more organic and less darty right off of center. Also, the brake pedal has better feedback, but still not to the level of Porsche. The chassis seems a bit more playful but still has that secure feeling that gives you confidence to push the car harder.

All of the little changes have made the 2012 GT-R a nice upgrade for me. If I was looking to get a car to mod then I would probably save some money and get a clean 2011 since it has a number of little upgrades that make the GT-R easier to live with. However, I'm not one to do many mods so the 2012 is the right GT-R for me.
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