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      01-18-2011, 10:19 PM   #45
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      01-18-2011, 10:25 PM   #46
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Sounds great - but what about the 23d engine?

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      01-18-2011, 10:32 PM   #47
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This engine seems really promising for sure, mod potential for this engine will be insane...the next generation N55 will probably be pushing close to 340 HP stock.
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2.0L turbo 245hp ?
Didn't Honda 10 years ago produce a 2.0L N/A 240hp engine for the S2000

Am I missing something here? is Honda ahead of its time, or is BMW lagging behind.
+1 very true but how about the EVO AND STI?
EVO: turbocharged, all-aluminium inline-4 engine. Evolutions are expected to be between 300 hp (220 kW) and 360 hp (270 kW).

STI: The latest US model of the STI has 305 bhp and 290 ft·lbf of torque (Horizontally Opposed 4-cylinder Single turbocharger, DOHC, 4-valves per cylinder.)
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+1 very true but how about the EVO AND STI?
EVO: turbocharged, all-aluminium inline-4 engine. Evolutions are expected to be between 300 hp (220 kW) and 360 hp (270 kW).

STI: The latest US model of the STI has 305 bhp and 290 ft·lbf of torque (Horizontally Opposed 4-cylinder Single turbocharger, DOHC, 4-valves per cylinder.)
Both with noticeable turbo lag partly because the turbos are larger.
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and it will spank a stock N55
I wouldn't say spank. Equal maybe.
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+1 very true but how about the EVO AND STI?
EVO: turbocharged, all-aluminium inline-4 engine. Evolutions are expected to be between 300 hp (220 kW) and 360 hp (270 kW).
And they've been making that sort of power for the last 10 years already. Albeit with 20+ psi stock boost and horrible fuel economy.

I myself will be trading in my Evo for the next 1 (or 2) series with this engine when it comes out.
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Just sad to see the NA I6 being replaced. Its was such a huge part of BMWs history.

Power delivery was always so silky and smooth, no other engine could compare when it came to that. IMO
I submit that the Jaguar DOHC 6 (3.4-4.2L) was as smooth. That engine in the XJ6 was silky smooth. BMWs of course just as smooth.

I too would lament the disappearance of the 6. Inline 4 engines are not as balanced. Unless some magical balancing act has been discovered.

My 2.3 L 4 cyl E30 M3 was a buzz bomb. I prayed for the BMW in line 6. Prayers were answered in the 3.0 L DOHC 6 cyl, E36 M3. Smooth as a babies button.
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The numbers look great, but I hope the intangibles like refinement and aural output will be up to the BMW standard.
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      01-19-2011, 12:24 AM   #55
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Man oh man this is gonna be great....Maybe this thing will be able to run with an Evo if they stuff it in a 1 series and tweak it...
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      01-19-2011, 01:36 AM   #56
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+1 very true but how about the EVO AND STI?
EVO: turbocharged, all-aluminium inline-4 engine. Evolutions are expected to be between 300 hp (220 kW) and 360 hp (270 kW).

STI: The latest US model of the STI has 305 bhp and 290 ft·lbf of torque (Horizontally Opposed 4-cylinder Single turbocharger, DOHC, 4-valves per cylinder.)
Those aren't engines that would be suitable in entry level luxury cars. They're impressive but designed more for high rpm horsepower and sacrifice lower rpm performance to get it.
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      01-19-2011, 01:58 AM   #57
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I think it will be a good thing. Infinite just started to make a lesser version of the G35. The G25 is 218hp and 187tq. The newer smaller engine from BMW would be a great option for 1 and 3 series.
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Can't wait for this engine to trickle down into the sportier cars. Good power in a lighter more compact engine.
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I really like the idea of a 4-cylinder turbo engine in a BMW with a decent price. I'd gladly have this engine ///M-odified in the 1M as it would be more of a spirutal successor to the E30 M3 for example. Can't wait to drive one!
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Looks very promising in papers, but I have doubts about durability... 2 turbos, hp pump, valvetronic + vanos all in one. There are many things i really like - power, consumption and ron = 91. But x28 badge is really dissapointing in 2.0 car....
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these are great numbers. both hp and torque figures are better than the N52. very promising! hopefully it won't be hindered by some hpfp issue
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Looks like this will be one of the perf engines powering the new F20's and F30's (x28i designated). I just hope BMW keeps the N52 around.

Does this engine have a SINGLE turbo with dual scrolls? Like the N55? Or two turbos? Like the 123d has?


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Actually the bore and stroke numbers may be accidently reversed in the chart above.
Thanks a lot, you caught an error in BMW's specs. Turns out that they had it right in the German version but got it reversed for the English translation. Anyway, it's now fixed in our chart.


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Does this engine have a SINGLE turbo with dual scrolls? Like the N55? Or two turbos? Like the 123d has?
It's a single turbo with dual scrolls, like the N55.


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I missed those EPA figures. Those are great!
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Dare I even say that there would be more tuning potential out of this engine in comparison to the N52?
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Very nice.

And I am sure our aftermarket friends will be able to dial in more power for those who want it on these engines.
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