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      02-12-2007, 03:53 AM   #1
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I just had a deutsche europlate made "Luftwaffe"

It means "Airforce." What do you guys think?

Oh that other pic, its the roundel on the trunk.
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      02-12-2007, 04:11 AM   #2
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how about Messerschmitt?
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As a Brit, I'm afraid I find that pretty offensive. You do know what the Luftwaffe got up to 60 years ago, don't you?
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As a Brit, I'm afraid I find that pretty offensive. You do know what the Luftwaffe got up to 60 years ago, don't you?
Agreed, here in EU and in my country it doesn't sound 'politically correct', though you got to do what you got to do.
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Over the years everyones military has done something offensive, even countries that are now peaceful have had disturbing pasts.
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Luftwaffe as a word sounds good, but the reference it shows is pretty bad.
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i think there is no problem
the german airforce was always named "luftwaffe".
i think this word isn´t infamous...
even we germans haven´t any problems with this and this say a lot!
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In German usage the word Luftwaffe can also be a generic term, so "die Britische Luftwaffe" would mean "the British Air Force"

Lifted from wiki - hence why the Germans don't have a problem with it....
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As a Brit, I'm afraid I find that pretty offensive. You do know what the Luftwaffe got up to 60 years ago, don't you?
For sure, might as well put Gestapo.
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      02-12-2007, 11:54 AM   #11
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What....why are you people so insecure???? I find nothing wrong with the word and I think it is polically safe. There are a lot more offensive words that people put on their plates.
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you're right ... it is simply meaning "Air Force" ...

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I don't have problem with it, but I can see how it might offend some people.
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I don't have problem with it, but I can see how it might offend some people.

Yes Luftwaffe means airforce, but it is synonymous with the Nazi Air Force. not really a huge deal, but some might find offensive.
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Yes Luftwaffe means airforce, but it is synonymous with the Nazi Air Force.

The German government must be unaware of the how their language is being interpreted. Perhaps a tactfully worded letter to the German embassy is in order to clear things up.


http://www.germany.info/relaunch/pol...luftwaffe.html
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For sure, might as well put Gestapo.

You've got to be kidding me?
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As a Brit, I'm afraid I find that pretty offensive. You do know what the Luftwaffe got up to 60 years ago, don't you?
And you know what the Royal Airforce did to Dresden etc.? So, this were bad times on both sides and I think it is time not to accuse Germans nowadays (also not the soldiers.) As you mentioned it is 60 years ago. Keep in mind, British bombers are flying attacks against (sometimes not so) innocent Iraqi people. In my oppinion, you have to look forward and not backwards all the time. Have you been directly involved in German attacks during the WWII? I guess not.

I don't know either why he choosed this. I wouldn't cause it is too aggressive for me in general but please stop complaining about WWII all the time.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to forget about it cause so much families have had to suffer by the consequences and it was and still is horrible but there have been several black points in the history of any european country.

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For sure, might as well put Gestapo.
Very childish. Luftwaffe means Airforce, nothing more nothing less. It never has been a political or ideological institution like the Gestapo (Geheime Staats Polizei) or the SS (Schutzstaffel) or the SA (Sturmabteilung). Gestapo, SS and SA were directly subordinated to the NSDAP. Luftwaffe is and has been a unit of the armed forces.

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I don't have problem with it, but I can see how it might offend some people.
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to 95% of non Germans Luftwaffe is synonymous with the nazi war machine, airforce isn't really a word you would learn in a foreign language unless you were very advanced, but if you watched war movies or taken a WWII history course you would immediately recognize the word in this context.

Putting that on your license plate would be similar to calling people that are in a good mood gay. Both terms technically correct but both terms much more likely to be taken out of context and likely taken offensively.

Not making a moral call on either term but merely suggesting that your car will be inevitably vandalized.
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i don't take any offense to it, but i do see how it could be taken the wrong way.
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Sure, airforce isn't a word you would learn in a language unless you were at least fairly advanced in its dialect, but in this case the Luftwaffe gained its notoriety because it was part of a villified nation.

That makes sense and all, but wouldn't it then be offensive if I put USAF on my car because the united states air force both fire bombed dresden, and dropped 2 atomic bombs on civilian cities? Funny, I seem to see people putting USAF stuff on their car all the time..

The only reason people would get flustered about this is because of their own insecurities and ignorance about history. I agree the the word Luftwaffe has its negative connotations but if you have any education whatsoever you will probably know that it simply means 'airforce'. Also, it is hilariously ironic that some people would take offense to this, but not the fact that BMW was a major contributer to the Nazi war machine, and their very emblem symbolizes their beginnings in Nazi aviation as well.

I'm not saying you should or shouldn't do it, but in my opinion people shouldn't find it offensive. They probably will though.

If you think it will get vandalized then you should probably buy this. Now.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812...e.thrower.car/

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