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      05-09-2015, 01:06 PM   #1
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AD08R vs PSS, and what size?

Ah yes the age old question.

AD08R or PSS?

Also which size would be best?

My setup:
F 19x9.5 +16
R 19x11 +27

Was thinking of 275/30 F and 295/30 R, would these fit on my wheels without spacers etc?

Also, my driving use. Pretty much daily driving and autocross 1-2/month.

Have not done any track days yet and probably won't this year, maybe toward the end of the summer or next summer. I am still a beginner when it comes to road tracks for sure.

I do want to get stickier tires for the autox but not sure if I need the AD08R or not. Thoughts?
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      05-11-2015, 02:35 AM   #2
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Advan 08R hands down!
Switched from PS2 which I presume better than PSS. amazing results! From steering wheel feel to cornering to lane changing, this set leaves Michelin with no comparison, even when wet. And the price the Japanese does give the french a run for their money. Had them for over a month. Totally in love just by staring at them. Any car guys will appreciate seeing those when parked. The down side would be its life time. Have to pass the test of my "right foot".

Size wise if running ZCP you should stick to 245 265 plenty square for most of us. 255 275 will get too wide.

Hope this help your decision making.
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I have no idea about tires cause i prefer pzero corsa. 255/35/19 F, 285/30/19 R i use. 275 F will be too wide it can cause some problems
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      05-16-2015, 09:36 PM   #4
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Advan 08R hands down!
Switched from PS2 which I presume better than PSS.

Hope this help your decision making.
PSS are way better than PS2 despite the price.
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PSS is the best. I would only choose something else if you're doing a lot of track days.
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      05-17-2015, 12:30 AM   #6
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Advan 08R hands down!
Switched from PS2 which I presume better than PSS. amazing results! From steering wheel feel to cornering to lane changing, this set leaves Michelin with no comparison, even when wet. And the price the Japanese does give the french a run for their money. Had them for over a month. Totally in love just by staring at them. Any car guys will appreciate seeing those when parked. The down side would be its life time. Have to pass the test of my "right foot".

Size wise if running ZCP you should stick to 245 265 plenty square for most of us. 255 275 will get too wide.

Hope this help your decision making.

None of this is correct...^^^^^^

The Mich PSS is about the best tire you are going to get for the street. There are a few other tires that will compete with them. The Advan A08R are an excellent tire but if the car is mainly used for the street the PSS is the better choice. Also your tire choice is fine, I am a tad concerned about your ET16 with the 19X9.5, that is really aggressive. Usually that size is in a ET22 offset. The rears are fine.
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      05-17-2015, 02:56 AM   #7
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Well, to each of their owns. We are not comparing, penny per mile that is going to be left in your pocket. We are talking about "performance" along. I'll be very sad if a car with such potentials will be limited by some brand admirers. All in all, try it yourself before walk into the truth. Michelin is a good tire maker however to get onto same level as advan you'll be looking at some pretty handsome numbers. My opinions don't need to make me put on my flame suit, don't they? :-)
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PSS is the best. I would only choose something else if you're doing a lot of track days.
Michelin tires have a "break-in" period. Which means the first couple thousand of miles you don't get much out of them. Don't know if you all are aware of that.
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Michelin tires have a "break-in" period. Which means the first couple thousand of miles you don't get much out of them. Don't know if you all are aware of that.


Every tire has a break in period. I do agree the PSS had a longer period than other tires but not anywhere near thousands of miles. More like 400-500 miles. The reward was the best tire I've ever purchased by a long shot. You are welcome to continue to run inferior tires because they break in quicker.
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Well, to each of their owns. We are not comparing, penny per mile that is going to be left in your pocket. We are talking about "performance" along. I'll be very sad if a car with such potentials will be limited by some brand admirers. All in all, try it yourself before walk into the truth. Michelin is a good tire maker however to get onto same level as advan you'll be looking at some pretty handsome numbers. My opinions don't need to make me put on my flame suit, don't they? :-)
Truthfully street life is a concern as well. I know the ad08 are the best pure performance tire but I need to weigh that against longevity.

As for my sizes, my wheels box me into larger sizes. The front someone mentioned aggressive offsets. The true offset isn't known since it's a forgestar and they just sent me an estimated offset. I told them my setup and planned tire size before they built the wheels (275F and 295R is what I told them).
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Advan 08R hands down!
Switched from PS2 which I presume better than PSS. amazing results! From steering wheel feel to cornering to lane changing, this set leaves Michelin with no comparison, even when wet. And the price the Japanese does give the french a run for their money. Had them for over a month. Totally in love just by staring at them. Any car guys will appreciate seeing those when parked. The down side would be its life time. Have to pass the test of my "right foot".

Size wise if running ZCP you should stick to 245 265 plenty square for most of us. 255 275 will get too wide.

Hope this help your decision making.

None of this is correct...^^^^^^

The Mich PSS is about the best tire you are going to get for the street. There are a few other tires that will compete with them. The Advan A08R are an excellent tire but if the car is mainly used for the street the PSS is the better choice. Also your tire choice is fine, I am a tad concerned about your ET16 with the 19X9.5, that is really aggressive. Usually that size is in a ET22 offset. The rears are fine.
Should I get 265F then?
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Check out this review of summer tires:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
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265/296, and go for PSS if you can get them
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      05-17-2015, 08:17 PM   #14
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Check out this review of summer tires:

http://<a href="http://www.caranddri...rison-test</a>
Considering our autocrosses are actually at the tire rack facility, this is highly relevant. I live about 30 mins from tire rack actually.

It'll be the PSS then in a 265/295 split. Thanks!
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