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      06-08-2012, 08:43 AM   #23
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What about minor scratch removal? Essentially there's no clear coat to protect or polish right? So if you have a scratch you basically need to repaint that panel to fix it? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Rock chips are the same deal, no minor remedial work can be done. I feel like we might be getting a biased view on this since frozen owners seem to defend their finishes to the death.

Love the idea of never having swirls though!
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      06-08-2012, 09:27 AM   #24
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You can not put a clear bra on it.
Actually, you can. It adheres and can be removed as with gloss paint. As indicated above 3M now makes a matte film which is excellent - it provides the same appearance and texture as the paint.

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It is really noticable on the Frozen Gray.
I disagree, having seen film on Frozen Gray, Frozen Black, and matte black pieces.

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The premium paint color cost $4,900.
For BMW.

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Not sure where you came up with $26,000?
That would be Lamborghini (don't ask how I know that ... )

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What about minor scratch removal?
Repair is the same as with traditional gloss paint. Painting of an entire panel is necessary in the same situations as with gloss finishes. A good blend is appropriate or not depending upon the actual damage and needed correction - as with any paint.

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Correct me if I'm wrong.
Ok.

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Rock chips are the same deal, no minor remedial work can be done.
Say what?? It's the same thing: touch up, light blend, etc. The existence or lack of a clear coat doesn't make one "easier" or "more difficult" than the other. It's just paint and technique in both situations.

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I feel like we might be getting a biased view on this since frozen owners seem to defend their finishes to the death.
No ... I don't see frozen owners defending their finishes (especially "to the death"). What I see is people trying to correct a lot of misinformation, errors, and personal concerns raised by non-frozen owners with no experience.

Frozo's post is the most accurate of all in this thread.
In spite of the understandable reaction of fear when the paint format was first introduced, the actual practice has been almost the opposite. The matte paints are very hardy, more cosmetically forgiving of dirt, and very easy to wash - light washing, soft drying and go. Scratches are actually less noticeable, and repainting is not significantly different.
BMW M Germany laughs at all of this. Their experience has been that it's just paint - drive the car, get it dirty, clean it, drive more.
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      06-08-2012, 10:34 AM   #25
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Drive mine every day, true enough I spend a bit on keeping it looking good as a consequence.

Itís not a concourse car or a classic or a super car so why would you treat it like one?
Yes itís your pride and joy and you want to keep it looking its best, but you can do that without the paint disclaimers keeping you awake at night and without keeping it to "special use only" or wrapping the damn thing (quite literally) in cotton woo or whatever it is you choose!!(Respect to those who want to change their cars look with a wrap)
Drive it like it was built to be driven and own the consequences knowing you have had the best the car has to offer in the enjoyment levels.
If I ever feel to keep the car forever, I will have the work done and garage it.
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      06-08-2012, 10:46 AM   #26
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No ... I don't see frozen owners defending their finishes (especially "to the death"). What I see is people trying to correct a lot of misinformation, errors, and personal concerns raised by non-frozen owners with no experience.
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Well said
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      06-08-2012, 10:57 AM   #27
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u know the idiot porters are gonna wash your car after service, even when u have the SA explicitly write "NO WASH" on the work order...then what? warranty voided?
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      06-08-2012, 11:14 AM   #28
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I don’t have the same warranty issues you guys are dealing with re the disclaimer. I guess it boils down to how good a relationship you have with your dealer regarding you needs and requirements. I can tell you that having the car washed with regular valet methods will not harm the car any more than it would a normal finish (as said before, car paint shows LESS swirl marks than a regular finish say in Sapphire Black!!!!!!)
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      06-08-2012, 03:47 PM   #29
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That salesman was bs I have a frozen black as my daily driver and it is so easy to maintain and to clean rinse with water and shammy back to brand new :-)
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You can't wax it...less maintenance.
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      06-08-2012, 05:23 PM   #31
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"BMW Frozen Gray M3 paint a pain, owners must sign agreement about its care?"



Source: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/13/b...greement-abou/
I'm wondering why BMW doesn't require the paint agreement for people buying Jerez Black. I have the literally wash it every day if I don't want it to look like it has mange.

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I'd like to see an M3 with frozen paint and 30,000 miles on the clock right next to a brand new one of the same finish. That might be the best way to tell if the finish changed much. Even then it you wouldn't know if it's wear or just differentiation between two paint jobs.
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      06-09-2012, 01:47 AM   #33
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Mine has 20k on the clock and still looks as mint as the day it was built bar a few battle scars which are part of owning such a beast as a daily driver. Car was parked next to a bn m5 in the same colour at the dealer and comments were made regarding how good the car looked still.
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Would love to see a copy of the disclaimer you guys have had to sign if anyone out there can be bothered to do a quick scan?
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