More information on Michelin Pilot Supersport

southlight · 12-26-2010, 05:14 PM

Here's information on the Michelin Pilot Supersport which Michelin claims to be the successor for the Pilot Sport PS2. BMW M and the M3 are explicitly mentioned in the press release so I guess BMW will approve that tire for OE soon. Surprisingly only the 18" factory sizes for the M3 are mentioned but not (yet?) the 19" rear size.

Michelin’s original U.S. ETA for the Pilot Super Sport line is May 1, 2011 (per Ben@tirerack).

Here is the full tiretrack track review:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=141

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Pilot Supersport vs PS2
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Pilot Supersport vs PS3

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Certified as original equipment for more than 200 vehicles, the MICHELIN Pilot Sport PS2 is currently fitted on the most prestigious vehicles in the market. Now its successor – the MICHELIN Pilot Super Sport – is taking up the challenge.

With the announcement of the worldwide rollout of the new MICHELIN Pilot Super Sport, scheduled to begin in January 2011, Michelin has confirmed its wholehearted commitment to the world of high performance vehicles. In first quarter 2010, the Group presented and brought to market the MICHELIN Pilot Sport 3.

The tire was designed for a broad range of vehicles, including sporty models of city cars and compacts as well as large, powerful sedans. It also equips true small sports cars, such as roadsters and coupes. With the extra-large 18 to 19-inch range, the MICHELIN Pilot Sport 3 is also suitable as optional equipment on non-sporting models.

The new MICHELIN Pilot Super Sport is positioned at the top of the ultra highperformance range, for truly outstanding, world-class vehicles.

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[source: Michelin via m-forum.de]

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south

1cleanm3 · 12-26-2010, 09:44 PM

wow thx!

ill be ordering a set of 295/30/19 when they come out

how much better can we expect this to be then the ps2 realistically?

sensi09 · 12-26-2010, 11:15 PM

It's about time, the PS2 has been out forever.

I have no doubt that this will be a better tire, but realistically for street driving, even very aggressive canyons and backroads, I doubt there will be much of an appreciable difference.

But very glad to see they upped the mileage at the same time as increasing performance.

Dave07997S · 12-26-2010, 11:22 PM

Its funny these companies roll out new tires and never for 19" M3 sizes. Only 18" or for PCars. Its the exact same thing for the new Toyos that are out.

Dave

1MORELAP · 12-26-2010, 11:41 PM

They needed to do something about the new PZeros - great tires. Glad they did.

18s for P cars? You are showing your age ;-)

What P car comes with 18s? You would be hard pressed to find a Boxster or Cayman with 18s; all are on 19s now. (Yes, its an upgrade for Carrera and Cayman/Boxster models, but most cars in US are upgraded to 19s.)

Tomasz

aus · 12-27-2010, 12:04 AM

Thanks for the info.
What's the point of the PS3 then? They might as well label it a high performance all season tire.

FruitCake · 12-27-2010, 04:49 PM

I don't care if it costs $700 per corner, i'll but it.

Michelins for life.

pride355 · 12-27-2010, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave07997S

Its funny these companies roll out new tires and never for 19" M3 sizes. Only 18" or for PCars. Its the exact same thing for the new Toyos that are out.

Dave

Dave,

255/35/19 front; 275/35/19 rear size is perfect for competition rims

PrimeBMW · 12-27-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pride355

Dave,

255/35/19 front; 275/35/19 rear size is perfect for competition rims

+1

I will spend a little extra money to get a superior tire "tuned" for the m3.

I dont understand why some people look for cheap tires when your life depends on it. I want the best. Period.

Definitive · 12-27-2010, 11:45 PM

Do we know when these will be released? I am in need of new rears soon and would like to get the newer version...

D

1cleanm3 · 12-28-2010, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrimeBMW

+1

I will spend a little extra money to get a superior tire "tuned" for the m3.

I dont understand why some people look for cheap tires when your life depends on it. I want the best. Period.

I totally agree, i never go cheap on tires. Afterall my life is riding on them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Definitive

Do we know when these will be released? I am in need of new rears soon and would like to get the newer version...

D

Im waiting here as well, hopefully early jan.

FruitCake · 12-28-2010, 12:25 PM

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ot+Super+Sport

IT IS UP ON TIRERACK, although only in 2 sizes, more will come later!!!
I will be the 1st to order a set EXCITE!

adc · 12-28-2010, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus

What's the point of the PS3 then? They might as well label it a high performance all season tire.

+1. I want to know too. What is the difference between PS2, PS3 and PSS?

saeedg48 · 12-29-2010, 01:45 AM

Review Please

rzm3 · 12-29-2010, 09:00 PM

Full TireRack test report:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=141

Definitive · 12-29-2010, 09:24 PM

When When When?!?!?!?! I called michelin US today and they dont even know when the ps3's will ship in the US.

Doh!

D

chris719 · 12-29-2010, 09:46 PM

These are in the same category as PS2, "Max Performance", so they will most likely not match the performance of Yokohama AD08 and Bridgestone RE11 in the dry. You will probably get better treadwear and wet performance in exchange though.

bballgms · 12-29-2010, 10:45 PM

whats the differance between this and the ps3?

Dave07997S · 12-29-2010, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1MORELAP

They needed to do something about the new PZeros - great tires. Glad they did.

18s for P cars? You are showing your age ;-)

What P car comes with 18s? You would be hard pressed to find a Boxster or Cayman with 18s; all are on 19s now. (Yes, its an upgrade for Carrera and Cayman/Boxster models, but most cars in US are upgraded to 19s.)

Tomasz

The base 997 non S comes with 18's...you say what Pcar comes with 18s yet you list them. Whats sad is that Michelin released sizes for the nonexistent Pcars with 18" wheels but not 19" M3s..

Dave

Dave07997S · 12-29-2010, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrimeBMW

+1

I will spend a little extra money to get a superior tire "tuned" for the m3.

I dont understand why some people look for cheap tires when your life depends on it. I want the best. Period.

I think thats too tall, also I am talking about OEM sizes. They release these tires in OEM sizes for 18" equipped M3s, but with the 997 they run the full lineup from 18s and 19s including the 305/30/19 that GT3s come with along with the 997.1 or .2 4S. They should offer GTS size for the rear at 285/30/19s.

aus · 12-29-2010, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bballgms

whats the differance between this and the ps3?

If you look at the performance "circle" between the two, the PS3, mainly improve on wet traction over the PS2's.
The PSS seem to have significant improvements in virtually all categories including wear.

richardg · 12-30-2010, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FruitCake

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ot+Super+Sport

IT IS UP ON TIRERACK, although only in 2 sizes, more will come later!!!
I will be the 1st to order a set EXCITE!

for 458 italia owners probably. It is one of the few cars with that tire right now

12-26-2010, 09:44 PM	#2
1cleanm3 Brigadier General Drives: ///E92M3RR SportPrius Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the 818 Posts: 3,518 iTrader: (7)	wow thx! ill be ordering a set of 295/30/19 when they come out how much better can we expect this to be then the ps2 realistically? __________________ HRE + CHALLENGE + KW V3 + GINTANI + ARKYM + YOKOHAMA AD08

12-26-2010, 11:22 PM	#4
Dave07997S Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 BMW M3 ZCP Coupe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Playa del Rey, CA Posts: 1,981 iTrader: (0)	Its funny these companies roll out new tires and never for 19" M3 sizes. Only 18" or for PCars. Its the exact same thing for the new Toyos that are out. Dave __________________ 2011 M3 Coupe-MR/Blk Turner Test Pipes, AFE pulley, Megan Catback/AFE Stg.2. 255/285 tires. Previous Rides: 2007 Porsche 997C2S Speed Yellow/Blk sport seats 2004 BMW M3 Imola/Blk

12-26-2010, 11:41 PM	#5
1MORELAP Captain Drives: '13 Audi S4 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Issaquah, WA Posts: 615 iTrader: (0)	They needed to do something about the new PZeros - great tires. Glad they did. 18s for P cars? You are showing your age ;-) What P car comes with 18s? You would be hard pressed to find a Boxster or Cayman with 18s; all are on 19s now. (Yes, its an upgrade for Carrera and Cayman/Boxster models, but most cars in US are upgraded to 19s.) Tomasz __________________ I apologize for spelling mistakes up front, they are a result of multitasking.

12-27-2010, 12:04 AM	#6
aus Major General Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA Posts: 6,221 iTrader: (5)	Thanks for the info. What's the point of the PS3 then? They might as well label it a high performance all season tire. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."

12-27-2010, 11:45 PM	#10
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,413 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	Do we know when these will be released? I am in need of new rears soon and would like to get the newer version... D __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

12-26-2010, 11:15 PM	#3
sensi09 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: . Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: socal Posts: 1,566 iTrader: (1)	It's about time, the PS2 has been out forever. I have no doubt that this will be a better tire, but realistically for street driving, even very aggressive canyons and backroads, I doubt there will be much of an appreciable difference. But very glad to see they upped the mileage at the same time as increasing performance.

12-27-2010, 04:49 PM	#7
FruitCake Banned Drives: '10 E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,687 iTrader: (19)	I don't care if it costs $700 per corner, i'll but it. Michelins for life.

12-28-2010, 12:25 PM	#12
FruitCake Banned Drives: '10 E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,687 iTrader: (19)	http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ot+Super+Sport IT IS UP ON TIRERACK, although only in 2 sizes, more will come later!!! I will be the 1st to order a set EXCITE!

12-29-2010, 01:45 AM	#14
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12-29-2010, 09:00 PM	#15
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12-29-2010, 09:24 PM	#16
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,413 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	When When When?!?!?!?! I called michelin US today and they dont even know when the ps3's will ship in the US. Doh! D __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

12-29-2010, 09:46 PM	#17
chris719 Second Lieutenant Drives: '08 M Roadster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 267 iTrader: (0)	These are in the same category as PS2, "Max Performance", so they will most likely not match the performance of Yokohama AD08 and Bridgestone RE11 in the dry. You will probably get better treadwear and wet performance in exchange though.

12-29-2010, 10:45 PM	#18
bballgms Private Drives: 128i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: la Posts: 84 iTrader: (1)	whats the differance between this and the ps3?

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