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      12-25-2010, 12:11 AM   #23
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If it is from the car ride or physical stress, lie on your back on the floor, and pick up your knees and slowly bring them to your stomach. Repeat, repeat.

When I was your age I started to have the same thing, not from driving but just day to day living, and I found that if I put those foot inserts in to my shoes from the drug store that helped out a lot.

Good luck. It sucks. Maybe you can find some pot or something in the meantime.
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      12-25-2010, 12:37 AM   #24
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Thanks to everyone who reassured what I thought it was, figured enough guys on here have had what this is and would know. I have a bottle of MR's back home and when I get back Sunday I will enjoy a few, and hit a chiro next week for an adjustment.
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      12-26-2010, 03:21 PM   #25
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Sounds like a herniated disc and/or pinched nerve and/or Sciatica. I've herniated the same disc three times in my lower back in the past five years and the Dr. told me I can just live with it or have surgery to "possibly" fix it. I've had excruciating back pain to the point where I couldn't get out of bed, my muscles completely locked up, and almost to the point of blacking out. I have occasional back pain and all you really can do is take Naproxen or any other NSAID and go to a chiropractor to get laser treatment, stem treatment, massages, and get readjusted. It sucks.
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Sounds like a herniated disc and/or pinched nerve and/or Sciatica. I've herniated the same disc three times in my lower back in the past five years and the Dr. told me I can just live with it or have surgery to "possibly" fix it. I've had excruciating back pain to the point where I couldn't get out of bed, my muscles completely locked up, and almost to the point of blacking out. I have occasional back pain and all you really can do is take Naproxen or any other NSAID and go to a chiropractor to get laser treatment, stem treatment, massages, and get readjusted. It sucks.
You need to find a better chiropracter. Mine was just like yours l4/l5 and I could either go surgery or physical therapy for mine. I opted to play more golf and eventually crawl my way into the chiropracter. My chiropracter is either awesome or he's awesome. I usually go in barely able to walk and I leave walking straight. Still in some pain, but literally walking straight. If I catch it early, I don't even have much pain at all anymore. Another thing that helps is that I'm more careful lifting things, playing golf, and you gotta be careful of some positions during sex.
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      12-27-2010, 05:30 AM   #27
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The posisition you discribed in your 1st post is the "Sacroiliac joint"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacroiliac_joint

The ligaments arround it could be inflammated, I think they surely are, try an NSAID, it would resolve the pain quickly.
Diclofenac, Meloxicam, Naproxen, Arthrotec or Ibuprofen should do the job, maybe you have some expirience with one off these.

A herniated disc would cause way more pain, also pain in the leg, mostly lower than the knee

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I took IB800's for 2 days and its feeling better, still sore and very limited pain but much better
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If it is a disc, delay surgery UNTIL ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!!!!!!!!!!!
Many people after back surgery come out the same or worse,and only a few seem to actually be better afterwards.
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sounds like you strained your back, i have the same issue. it sux, take some aleve, it will help a lot
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      12-27-2010, 10:17 AM   #31
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If it is a disc, delay surgery UNTIL ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!!!!!!!!!!!
Many people after back surgery come out the same or worse,and only a few seem to actually be better afterwards.
My grandfather has had 6 I know, why I'm being so cautious with my back. Plus I'm 6'7 so the margin of error is much smaller in my case.
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As a chiropractor, it doesn't sound like a disc, the sacroiliac joint isn't moving causing swelling around the joint, which is why you feel pain. Take a hot shower and put a tennis ball in the muscle above the SI joint to get the muscle to relax. Go see your chiropractor and all should be good. As far as disc problems, symptoms are much worse and far more debilitating. No need for an MRI unless symptoms persist and increase. Save your 2K for something else.
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Sounds like a herniated disc and/or pinched nerve and/or Sciatica. I've herniated the same disc three times in my lower back in the past five years and the Dr. told me I can just live with it or have surgery to "possibly" fix it. I've had excruciating back pain to the point where I couldn't get out of bed, my muscles completely locked up, and almost to the point of blacking out. I have occasional back pain and all you really can do is take Naproxen or any other NSAID and go to a chiropractor to get laser treatment, stem treatment, massages, and get readjusted. It sucks.
Sounds like you better start to strengthen the area by doing some core work. If the doc you are using isn't helping as much as you would like go see another.
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      12-27-2010, 01:46 PM   #34
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get a massage

i have pretty chronic lower back pain and having a massage really helps

my 4th from the bottom has a smallll crack, hence the back pain.

happened from lifting in high school

stupid 450lb squats and 380lb bench presses
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      12-27-2010, 10:09 PM   #36
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...stupid 450lb squats and 380lb bench presses

Dude we get it.... you are ripped and really rich. Please stop posting all of this kind of stuff. LOL.




Collin, hope you are feeling better dude. I've got Grade 1 Spondylolisthesis between L5/S1 so I feel your pain... quite literally.

Fortunately I'm only a grade 1 and it's something I've been able to manage (so far) with core exercises and stretching regularly. In the beginning (when it really started bothering me) it was bad.... There was a period of about 18 months where I was injured (in some degree of pain) for at least 1 week a month. I remember one morning I bent over to feed the cats and jacked up my back so bad I literally couldn't walk for a week.

The most important thing you can do is to recognize your limits and change your behaviors, etc. Lifting heavy stuff (or rather how you lift it) is the most obvious change, but beyond that I've had to all but eliminate any shoes I own that have heels on them (not talking high-heels either ). Even dress shoes with .5" heals will throw my back out of alignment and cause me serious pain these days.


Good luck with it... chronic back pain is pretty crappy.
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As a chiropractor, it doesn't sound like a disc, the sacroiliac joint isn't moving causing swelling around the joint, which is why you feel pain. Take a hot shower and put a tennis ball in the muscle above the SI joint to get the muscle to relax. Go see your chiropractor and all should be good. As far as disc problems, symptoms are much worse and far more debilitating. No need for an MRI unless symptoms persist and increase. Save your 2K for something else.
Went today for my visit, Doc said it wasnt anything serious just some typical pain. He adjusted me and hooked me up to the electro-therapy machine.

Turns out this doc is a 4th generation chiropractor, had all the family pics and stuff since the late 19th century, thought it was pretty cool. You might know the family, Lensgraf family.
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I went to a chiropractor and got a deep tissue massage type thing. It hurt like hell, but did help my back.

I would recommend Ibuprofin instead of tylenol. IB is an anti-inflamatory, tylenol is not.

edit: just saw your update....hope all is well now. Back pain sucks.
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My sister had one and I found it extremely uncomfortable. She loved it.
Hmm.... That sounds really wrong. Or really right if you're from Tennessee.

Collin, don't come to bimmerpost for back problem advice. The back is a place where you can screw yourself up for the rest of your life very easily. See a specialist and get it figured out.

Disc problems are a nightmare.
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Could be from all the sitting running the LOL thread.
bb forum kid looked like he had some sort of back spasm thing going on. Maybe he's got some advice on this matter
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Pretty sure it's a sign that you have a broken back;that you are broke back.
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get a massage

i have pretty chronic lower back pain and having a massage really helps

my 4th from the bottom has a smallll crack, hence the back pain.

happened from lifting in high school

stupid 450lb squats and 380lb bench presses
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Dude we get it.... you are ripped and really rich. Please stop posting all of this kind of stuff. LOL.
He isn't. What happened? lol
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