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      12-04-2010, 02:45 PM   #1
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$80k Salary in Maryland/Baltimore/D.C. area?

Does anyone here fit that bill? If so, are you living comfortably, adjusting to cost of living?

For those in the area, what's the traffic like?

Any other experiences with work in the area?

Thanks for the insight...
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      12-04-2010, 02:51 PM   #2
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DC has the highest rent/real estate prices (overtook Manhattan this year) and notoriously terrible traffic. Not sure about the other areas, perhaps you could look into Virginia/Alexandria as well
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      12-04-2010, 03:04 PM   #5
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I'm there and 80K is not going to be enough to live comfortably without a roommate or two. You can make it work on your own, but you won't have a lot of extra cash. I'm right in the middle of DC, Baltimore, and Annapolis and the average appartament around here is $1450 a month. A house rental/mortgage will run you between $1600-2900. IF you want to live in the city it can be cheaper, but the neighborhood you'll be in will be pretty shady.

The traffic here makes me want to punch a baby, it's stupid. If you have a good company you're working for they may let you do flex hours like a lot of us do and that way you can come in to work before or after the major rush. Just as an example, it normally takes me 35 min to get to work on any given day, today I did it in 17 because it was a Saturday. The worst drivers I have ever been around, they just can't stand letting someone in front of them and have never heard of the concept of zippering. It is a beautiful area once you get away from the peope though.

You could make 80K work here, you would just have to be willing to live a little further away and put up with the traffic. I know a lot of people that live up in PA and do the long commute because you can live very comfortably up there at half price.

Hope that helped.
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      12-04-2010, 03:24 PM   #6
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What's zippering? And tbh, 80k is good if you're living by yourself. Probably won't support a family if you want to continue driving bimmers. Insurance is higher, overall cost of living is higher than in most places in the US.
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DC has the highest rent/real estate prices (overtook Manhattan this year) and notoriously terrible traffic. Not sure about the other areas, perhaps you could look into Virginia/Alexandria as well
I have done some research on this, Manhattan has far and away the highest avg. rental rate. If there was some report that says different, I would be interesting in reading it.

And 80k will not go far. I hope whomever you are moving with has an income as well.
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What's zippering?
aka yielding. basically 2 lanes merging into one and the cars merge in a zipper fashion. that idea.
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aka yielding. basically 2 lanes merging into one and the cars merge in a zipper fashion. that idea.
Except people are retarded, and dont under stand that one person from each lane at a time. Some douche in a busted piece of shit always needs to floor it a quarter inch off the person in front of them's bumper and let nobody merge.
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      12-04-2010, 04:21 PM   #10
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I just bailed from DC area. Traffic, humidity, bugs, snow, and the people largely suck.

That said, Arlington, VA is not bad. You can metro in to downtown DC if you like and its a pretty clean semi urban environment. A lot of young single people. Keep in mind DC has a zero tolerance policy. They lock up old ladies on one glass of wine. The whole area has turned in to a police state with all the security and what not. The cops are pretty much all assholes around there. The guys running around in the black SUVs will run your ass off the road without a second thought.

And whatever you do, do not end up in DC jail. Not even for a night. You'll have nightmares.
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I have done some research on this, Manhattan has far and away the highest avg. rental rate. If there was some report that says different, I would be interesting in reading it.

And 80k will not go far. I hope whomever you are moving with has an income as well.
I'll dig it up, it was in the WSJ a few months back. It basically said that the UES had the highest price/sq foot, but when considering the island as a whole DC is on average more expensive/sq foot

Here is one I found but not the one I'm looking for http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126291211587420679.html
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I'm there and 80K is not going to be enough to live comfortably without a roommate or two. You can make it work on your own, but you won't have a lot of extra cash. I'm right in the middle of DC, Baltimore, and Annapolis and the average appartament around here is $1450 a month. A house rental/mortgage will run you between $1600-2900. IF you want to live in the city it can be cheaper, but the neighborhood you'll be in will be pretty shady.

The traffic here makes me want to punch a baby, it's stupid. If you have a good company you're working for they may let you do flex hours like a lot of us do and that way you can come in to work before or after the major rush. Just as an example, it normally takes me 35 min to get to work on any given day, today I did it in 17 because it was a Saturday. The worst drivers I have ever been around, they just can't stand letting someone in front of them and have never heard of the concept of zippering. It is a beautiful area once you get away from the peope though.

You could make 80K work here, you would just have to be willing to live a little further away and put up with the traffic. I know a lot of people that live up in PA and do the long commute because you can live very comfortably up there at half price.

Hope that helped.

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      12-05-2010, 07:36 AM   #13
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Thanks for the replies everyone, any more input? Seems like DC area is more 'viable' if salary is in the 85+ range...
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      12-05-2010, 08:39 AM   #14
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aka yielding. basically 2 lanes merging into one and the cars merge in a zipper fashion. that idea.
Thank god someone else knows about this, I was starting to think it was somethig I had made up.

85+ would actually be worse. I got a friend that's looking into a job right now and the tax bracket stops at $82,500 I think he said. Once you get into that next bracket you wouldn't start seeing any more money till about 94K. His research, not mine but he's a pretty sharp guy.

If you don't have expensive tastes then you can make 80K work. I tend to spend money like an idiot so I couldn't do it, but I know a lot of people that make it work. Like I said, you're just going to need a room mate unless you are one of those guys that just sits on xbox all day and doesn't spend any money. You might be OK then.
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      12-05-2010, 03:21 PM   #15
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Thanks for the input. What's your opinion on the Fort Meade area? Living, wages, etc.
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      12-05-2010, 07:22 PM   #16
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I know that area well. There are some appts right near there that aren't too bad price wise, but you may be buying new rims every couple months. I make the commute there every day and the drive isn't too bad where I'm at because I'm usually going against traffic.

I don't personally like the area because it's too crowded, I grew up out west and just don't get the draw to this place. There's a ton of stuff to do, but there is also a ton of people who all want to so the same thing at the same time so it sucks. It's going to be what you make it though, just going to be a bit different from Germany. Any other questions feel free to PM me, I'll try to steer you away from the really bad areas.
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      12-05-2010, 08:26 PM   #17
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I currently live in Arlington, Va....3 miles from D.C. and 80k is fine if you're single. If you have a family it won't be unless you have an extra set of income coming in.

I'm single, own a condo, car payment (not a bmw) , student loans, and go out to the bars/eat out and currently make less than 80k and I live just fine though I can't spend as freely as I did when I had a roommate. You can live resonably with 80k, but you won't be ballin that's for sure.

And yes traffic sucks...sometimes even on the weekends.

Check out the citydata.com forums for the D.C. area. There is a ton of information and threads about questions just like yours. It would be a great site for you.
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I never knew it was that bad.. 80k cant cover what it used to. I'm amazed..

one thing it should cover is a bullet proof vest and twin 9mm for 8pm-7am.
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My good friend lives out in Annapolis, MD and I love the town but, I can't believe how expensive that area is.(walking distance to downtown, water) We usually take his boat out during the summer a few times and cruise past the Academy and head across the bay. 80k is doable but, cost of housing and rent is extremely high.
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i gotta agree with everything Chest said. a basic 5-6 mile drive from my hotel to the naval yard took me close to an hour. i'm thankful i don't live/work in the area. definitely a very expensive place to live.

my bro lives in Stafford and commutes to DC from there, somewhat of a drive but he deals with it.
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"Zippering":



This comes from a very interesting site with a study on traffic. Give it a read if you haven't already:

http://www.amasci.com/amateur/traffic/traffic1.html
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Traffic is horrible in DC. If you drive over 80 (i think), you get a criminal record in VA. 80k is not enough to live in VA even if you single. Rent runs around $1500 in the arlington/Rosslyn area for a small studio or if you lucky 1 br. Food and insurance is high compare to other cities. People drives like they stole the car. If i have the opportunity, ill move in a heartbeat.
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