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      01-14-2012, 12:02 AM   #23
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its no shit we running out, is shit china is taken the oil and they gonna replace the yuan instead the dollar as a currency to buy it.

another example; is perfectly ok all the cars move whit electric energy. i dont know how but its a huge ammount of oil everyday wasted on that. why they dont want to leave electric car became cheap?

to rule you need to control, to control the necessary raws

the world never be a perfect place, i know it, but i mind about it and belive it could be better. im dreaming i know it too
you kidding me? the electric car isnt cheap because everybody knows driving an electric car is shit, therefore they cant sell in the volume they would need to make it cheap enough to have to deal with. Further more, you want to speak about controlling the raw? where do you think the metals come from that go into making a battery? canada, and MAINLY china. take your pick, whether oil is calculated by the renminbi or the dolar makes no difference at all....like i said earlier, money value is relative, so long as no one bases money value on one resource (gold standard) the values will be relative and work out the same anyhow with a very small variation. Its silly to have the thought that those who control scarce resources control. the reason its silly is because as long as we can create alternatives through comparative cost it wont be a problem, except for water, food and air of course. They arent holding the electric car down, its just too expensive relative to the alternatives i.e. gas. I remember top Gear would rag on the prius when it comes out by saying a land rover polluted less than a prius when one factors in the cost of production. the only think holding down the electric car is the consumer, yet here you are on a BMW forum with a turbo gas engine.


Its good to want the world to be a better place, but with all things no good deed goes unpunished. If you want to make the world better faster than its willing to be at a time than you have to be okay with paying for the unintended consequences.
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The party is over. The west spent 30 years pursuing neo- liberal free market economics and the system has bankrupted us. Its not a failure of capitalism, just this version of capitalism. You can't base economic growth on gambling and that is what we have all done.
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      01-14-2012, 12:05 PM   #25
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you kidding me? the electric car isnt cheap because everybody knows driving an electric car is shit, therefore they cant sell in the volume they would need to make it cheap enough to have to deal with.
Maybe is shit because the people that finance are not interested as long they do more bussines with the oil

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Further more, you want to speak about controlling the raw? where do you think the metals come from that go into making a battery? canada, and MAINLY china.
rare earths yeah

this is not a issue of who have and whos not. If the chinese people does the same thing all usurers do whit the oil be can do nothing.



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take your pick, whether oil is calculated by the renminbi or the dolar makes no difference at all....like i said earlier, money value is relative, so long as no one bases money value on one resource (gold standard) the values will be relative and work out the same anyhow with a very small variation.
Money matters ... too complex, i step aside on talk about it on a forum since now.

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Its silly to have the thought that those who control scarce resources control. the reason its silly is because as long as we can create alternatives through comparative cost it wont be a problem, except for water, food and air of course. They arent holding the electric car down, its just too expensive relative to the alternatives i.e. gas.
Expensive? ... something is expensive if you want to be expensive. Is not much expensive all the smarthphones industry, a guy made 25 of them per day in exchange of a rice bowl


Nah, until the last drop of oil, solar, electric, or any kind of alternative energy gonna be marginalized

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