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View Poll Results: What will the hp of the new M3 be (claimed, crank)
400 - 409 14 11.67%
410-419 15 12.50%
420 - 429 55 45.83%
430 - 439 13 10.83%
440 - 449 23 19.17%
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      02-08-2007, 03:39 AM   #67
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Does anybody read anything into the recent M3 spy pictures with a M MM 444 number plate ? This would be a great bhp figure
That's not the real plate! The photographer did edit the plate! Here's the real number plate: http://www.bmw-drivers.de/images/nic...362daaa1ef.jpg
source: http://www.bmw-drivers.de/forum-40/t-26580/e90-m3.html

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      02-08-2007, 04:10 AM   #68
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Plus consider that when the E46 M3 replaced the E36 M3, the price went up around $6-7K for similar equipment. Although the engine was still a 3.2 L inline six, it was the mack-daddy 3.2L with amazing technology, and overall HP went up from 240 to 333 (40% increase!!!).
dont forget you guys got the slow 1
321hp in euroland
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      02-08-2007, 05:05 AM   #69
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I don't. We should see about 17% increase in lb/hp, bigger brakes, better SMG III, wider rubber, improved suspension design, etc. I think the comparo E92 M3:E46 M3 = E46 M3:E36 M3.
Thats a good comparison. Its also the comparison that makes me nervous. The engine will be fine, it will probably make between 425 ad 450hp.

Its the suspension that I worry about. The E46 was a downgrade from the E36 in terms of handling. I hope they learned their lesson based on all the complaints they got, time will tell.
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      02-08-2007, 10:13 AM   #70
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This is what i got from my So-Cal dealer earlier this week

Horsepower - 430hp to 440hp
0-60 - 4.4 to 4.6
Price - Base $58.999 nicely equipped $75,000

He also told me that the final product will have a lot more luxury options then in past M3s.Also Carbon Fiber roof will be available 2 yrs from 2008 launch only on CSL model and that model probably will not come to US.And no HUD will be available.
I am # 1 at the dealer and i allready told the manager that if the final price goes over $85,000 ( the way i want it) that i will get in line for 2010 R10 intsead.To which he replied by that even with all options it would come close to $85,000.
If the car "nicely equipped" is at $75k, then it better have 440 hp not 426. Even then, I would go to a 997S for not much more $$. I cannot see spending $75k or more for a 3 series unless its a CSL.
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      02-08-2007, 10:30 AM   #71
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He also told me that the final product will have a lot more luxury options then in past M3s.
Great. Just what a performance car needs!

Hopefully 'options' will be the key word here.
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      02-08-2007, 12:33 PM   #72
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This is what i got from my So-Cal dealer earlier this week

Horsepower - 430hp to 440hp
0-60 - 4.4 to 4.6
Price - Base $58.999 nicely equipped $75,000

He also told me that the final product will have a lot more luxury options then in past M3s.Also Carbon Fiber roof will be available 2 yrs from 2008 launch only on CSL model and that model probably will not come to US.And no HUD will be available.
I am # 1 at the dealer and i allready told the manager that if the final price goes over $85,000 ( the way i want it) that i will get in line for 2010 R10 intsead.To which he replied by that even with all options it would come close to $85,000.
I don't believe that the dealers know w.t.f. they are talking about. As much as I would love that much power, I really doubt it. If the price is that high, I will be buying the 997S as well. Even $75k for a 3 series is crazy.

For a car that is supposedly coming equipped with a lot of luxury itmes, an addtional $16,000 dollars over the rumored $58,999 base price, is a lot. I would think it should be called "all optioned", rather than "well optioned".
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      02-08-2007, 05:41 PM   #73
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This is what i got from my So-Cal dealer earlier this week

Horsepower - 430hp to 440hp
0-60 - 4.4 to 4.6
Price - Base $58.999 nicely equipped $75,000

He also told me that the final product will have a lot more luxury options then in past M3s.Also Carbon Fiber roof will be available 2 yrs from 2008 launch only on CSL model and that model probably will not come to US.And no HUD will be available.
I am # 1 at the dealer and i allready told the manager that if the final price goes over $85,000 ( the way i want it) that i will get in line for 2010 R10 intsead.To which he replied by that even with all options it would come close to $85,000.
THANK YOU
i am SO with you!

except i was guessing 75,000 as fully loaded one...
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I don't believe that the dealers know w.t.f. they are talking about. As much as I would love that much power, I really doubt it. If the price is that high, I will be buying the 997S as well. Even $75k for a 3 series is crazy.

For a car that is supposedly coming equipped with a lot of luxury itmes, an addtional $16,000 dollars over the rumored $58,999 base price, is a lot. I would think it should be called "all optioned", rather than "well optioned".
i was thinking fully loaded for 75,000 comparing it to E46 M3.
48,XXX to 64,xxx (base to fully loaded)
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      02-10-2007, 02:01 AM   #75
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Cmon now...base price CAN'T be $65,000.
Loaded one will most likely be $75,000 or even $80,000
thats wayyyy too close to the m5
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thats wayyyy too close to the m5
True. But the price of the M5 is probably going to go up, especially with the 550hp engine. As a result, you will most likely end up with the typical $20 -25,000 spread between the M3 and M5. Even so, a price in the $70's for the M3 will make me think twice; I may look elsewhere, or expand my car shopping to include other hot cars in the $70 -80,000 range or higher. ... Oh,
what the hell!!
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How close were you?

I thought it would be interesting to look at the poll results now that we know the actual spec of 414 hp.

Looks like most were thinking the power would be higher.
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      03-23-2007, 10:03 AM   #78
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swamp2, you should have snap shotted the the poll results the day the engine specs were released. That way you could post the results in the openning post so we all know who the people are that voted after the specs weree already here

Not too late to do it still...

(Either that or change the expiration date, but i dont think it lets you)
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      03-23-2007, 10:05 AM   #79
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I thought it would be interesting to look at the poll results now that we know the actual spec of 414 hp.
Depends on whether we are talking US specs or international specs. I guess that should have been specified in advance.
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