Beast... super fast c63 vs m3 vs Carrera S vs R8

[bimmerj]

Originally Posted by DiscoZ

You really cannot read nor logically reason.

Here are threads for my car and mods being sold:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=667996
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=667596

Additionally, not sure if you noticed, I live in Canada. We use the metric system (on my 0.6l/100km comment which you did not comprehend, is NOT the gas tank).

The C63 costs ~$6K less here fully loaded and I pay 13% tax on everything.

I also pay less insurance on my C63.

BMW Canada doesn't cover brakes. MB Canada does. BMW pays for oil services. In my book, the two are equal; I also changed oil more frequently on my M3 and Z4MC and will on the C63.

Tires: I go to the track a few times a year so any tire will die fast for me, as my Z4MC and M3 tires did. Even if they didn't: $600/year for rears by your argument (discounted in the future for PV) over 3-4 years of ownership doesn't along cover a $6K + 13% difference in present value dollars.

Run the numbers, if you can. I already have. Grow up while you are doing it. Learn how to read before you run your mouth. Helps with getting your foot / feet out of it later on.

In either case, even if you were right... you are right in a construct you have invented (called "straw-man") and not what I or anyone else meant.

Here - a consolation prize for you: I never meant to disrespect the M3. I am so sorry. Now, please stop giving me --and everyone else-- headaches with your utter lack of anything to say but troll.

BTW - Just so you know, I had your car. I still like it. People like you give it a bad name. Sell it and buy a Honda Civic SI. Seriously, please just stop it. For your own sake.

A fully loaded M3 is a good $10-11k more than a fully loaded C63 (PP). I have been buying BMWs since 1989 and this is my first MB. Let me say, I am glad I visited the MB dealer back in 2009.

[Nine]

Originally Posted by gthal

Having owned both, the C63 is more expensive to operate. I'm getting notably worse gas mileage and tire wear is more pronounced. The C63 is covered for wear and tear (brakes included) in Canada whereas the M3 was not. This may be different in the US. However, regular maintenance was covered on the M3 (oil changes) and not on the C63.

If day to day costs are how you determine the better DD car, the C63 loses IMO. If you define the better DD car to be the one that sounds aggressive and has more easily attainable power then, IMO, the C63 wins. What makes a car a better daily car is subjective and what one of us values will be different than another. Heck, what I value in a DD car changes from week to week .

Thank you Gthal for confirming my point.

[DiscoZ]

Nine -

A) Do you realise Gthal makes the same point I did about a -subjectively- better DD before you started with your useless arguments on numbers which really are moot given you clearly cannot add (nor read).

B) Did you even bother to read my last (or any) post (s)? C63 cost of ownership is less for me (at the start as I calculated) given the factors I (and others) have laid out above. Remember, I am in Canada. C63's are much cheaper here and my insurance is lower by ~$300/year. I also pay less interest on the C63 loan.

Gthal is talking about running it day to day, I am talking about cost of ownership. I will probably get worse mileage in the C63 not just because it is 0.6l/100 km worse in tested ratings, (which is ~$90 a year at $1.50/l gasoline given I drive my "fun" cars ~10,000km/year at the most, usually closer to 6-7K) but because I drive it harder than the M3 given its instant gratification.

I am putting this to rest. Let's just agree to disagree.

[DiscoZ]

Originally Posted by bimmerj

A fully loaded M3 is a good $10-11k more than a fully loaded C63 (PP). I have been buying BMWs since 1989 and this is my first MB. Let me say, I am glad I visited the MB dealer back in 2009.

Agree... I've had 5 BMW's (see sig) and this is my first MB. Already thinking of the new ML when I get rid of the X3.

[Pauldramos]

Wow! What a thread!

People tend to justify what they own. Find what works for you and try not to use it to compare yourself to others.

[bimmerj]

Found this, not related to the topic, but will break the monotony.

http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/806438

[Adriansideways]

Yeah please and dude stop speaking about Merc's!!! This is a Bimmer site!!!! We are and always will be biast

[Adriansideways]

Originally Posted by bimmerj

Found this, not related to the topic, but will break the monotony.

http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/806438

Haha thats funny NOT ME

[gthal]

Originally Posted by Adriansideways

Yeah please and dude stop speaking about Merc's!!! This is a Bimmer site!!!! We are and always will be biast

Mods... please close the "M3 vs..." sub forum because Adrian doesn't want any other car discussed therefore making any M3 vs... discussions off limits. This subforum should be renamed "M3 vs M3"

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by gthal

Mods... please close the "M3 vs..." sub forum because Adrian doesn't want any other car discussed therefore making any M3 vs... discussions off limits. This subforum should be renamed "M3 vs M3"

First thread will be: "If an immovable M3 is hit by an irresistible force M3 what happens?"

Probably will get twenty pages out of that.

[Adriansideways]

LOL point taken !! M3 > Chuck Norris. Beat that