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      10-18-2010, 11:10 PM   #1
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Exclamation Arkym or Vorsteiner

I've been on the fence about these two brands, and cant decide,
Arkym Vorsteiner
front lip front lip
rear diff. type 2 diff
trunk spoiler trunk spoiler
(all single side)

how are the fitment, finish, and overall quality?, and which brand is better, i just got into my m3 so i dont really which brand is better or worse, ive searched but cant seem to find an honest answer, the arkym guys say arkym, and the vrs owners say vrs, PLEASE HELPPP!!!!! im lost....
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I was in same shoes as you.

My 2 cents:

My arkym front lip and rear diffusor have 100% PERFECT FITMENT.

I love how the front lip looks, and boy oh boy the rear diffusor is so hot and agressive!!!!! The rear diffusor is just something im in love with lol

QUALITY IS TOP NOTCH... and prices are very reasonable, i believe like 1400 for front and rear cf diffusor/lip.

Talk tom eric@pyspeed , hell take care of you

BTw this is from someone who owned V stuff on his 335 and e46 m, so this is an honest answer
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I've been on the fence about these two brands, and cant decide,
Arkym Vorsteiner
front lip front lip
rear diff. type 2 diff
trunk spoiler trunk spoiler
(all single side)

how are the fitment, finish, and overall quality?, and which brand is better, i just got into my m3 so i dont really which brand is better or worse, ive searched but cant seem to find an honest answer, the arkym guys say arkym, and the vrs owners say vrs, PLEASE HELPPP!!!!! im lost....
Can't beat authentic VRS Dry autoclave formed CF.

We guarantee the fitment or your money back 100%, including shipping/labor costs.

We actually have one in stock. Let me know if you need help with a price.
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      10-18-2010, 11:51 PM   #4
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Thanks guys for the input, keep em coming...
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Can't beat authentic VRS Dry autoclave formed CF.

We guarantee the fitment or your money back 100%, including shipping/labor costs.

We actually have one in stock. Let me know if you need help with a price.
here we go again....

do you only back up stuff you sell or what?
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yah thats what i wanna know, every vendor keeps saying their product is the best?
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The design and fitment of either is pretty nice, as far as I know.

But just FYI before you spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars, many of the CF parts on the aftermarket are just glass fiber backing with carbon fiber overlay. Not quite the so-called 100% carbon fiber as many have claimed.

Well, in reality there is no such thing as 100% carbon fiber anyway because you always need a matrix material (i.e. epoxy) to reinforce the carbon fiber cloth. Otherwise you are just left with a piece of cloth, literally

Again, not in anyway discouraging you from buying any products. I am simply providing you with some information.

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Kind of in the same boat... Looking for a good choice for a rear diffuser. Checked out the Challenge and the Vorsteiner ones, but a little hesitant on spending $1k+ on something like that...
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I was on the fence between the Vorsteiner and Challenge stuff myself. I ended up going with Vorsteiner because I like the look just a little more. Everything I've heard was that the Challenge stuff has better quality and fitment so I was a bit apprehensive on the Vorsteiner but was pleasantly surprised once I got the pieces installed.

I do like the Arkym diffuser a lot though.




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Arkym FTW. Love their stuff! Quality from what i've seen is great and fit is great.

Looking forward to their E90 stuff!

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I actually went and looked at a challenge lip on a white m3 and having a body shop myself, i know a little bit about fitment, all i can say is that fitment was garbage, although it looks gorgeous from far, up close that was truly not fitting well, everything about it was off it didnt sit flush, and didnt follow the line of the bumper, i have an e90 also with some acs mods, and oem rear, the fitment of the challenge was nowhere near those two, i think i will either go with oem or acs, because that really scared me.
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I actually went and looked at a challenge lip on a white m3 and having a body shop myself, i know a little bit about fitment, all i can say is that fitment was garbage, although it looks gorgeous from far, up close that was truly not fitting well, everything about it was off it didnt sit flush, and didnt follow the line of the bumper, i have an e90 also with some acs mods, and oem rear, the fitment of the challenge was nowhere near those two, i think i will either go with oem or acs, because that really scared me.
Hopefully this customer will contact us at Challenge or the dealer they purchased from if there is some fitment issue. We have NEVER had any fitment issue to date on any lip. Infact, every dealer to install the lip on th eM3 has commented to us that it fit better than any other lip they have installed. I ask our dealers for very honest feedback to make sure nothing slips through the cracks.
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But just FYI before you spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars, many of the CF parts on the aftermarket are just glass fiber backing with carbon fiber overlay. Not quite the so-called 100% carbon fiber as many have claimed.

Well, in reality there is no such thing as 100% carbon fiber anyway because you always need a matrix material (i.e. epoxy) to reinforce the carbon fiber cloth. Otherwise you are just left with a piece of cloth, literally
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my authentic 3D splitter was cf overlay on top of fiber glass...
I saw same thing with rldzhao's picture when mine got broken in half.
I give credit to companies whom designed it but quality wise... I just dont get
the difference between authentic and knockoffs....
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I actually went and looked at a challenge lip on a white m3 and having a body shop myself, i know a little bit about fitment, all i can say is that fitment was garbage, although it looks gorgeous from far, up close that was truly not fitting well, everything about it was off it didnt sit flush, and didnt follow the line of the bumper, i have an e90 also with some acs mods, and oem rear, the fitment of the challenge was nowhere near those two, i think i will either go with oem or acs, because that really scared me.
Based on your avatar, you obviously have no bias towards ACS...
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I was on the fence between the Vorsteiner and Challenge stuff myself. I ended up going with Vorsteiner because I like the look just a little more. Everything I've heard was that the Challenge stuff has better quality and fitment so I was a bit apprehensive on the Vorsteiner but was pleasantly surprised once I got the pieces installed.

I do like the Arkym diffuser a lot though.




Dude, I saw your car got installed last week @ Rennspec. Excellent choice of mod I have to say. I went back on Monday to get my exhuast done. I will probably get Vorsteiner also

How do you like your Akra full sys?
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Dude, I saw your car got installed last week @ Rennspec. Excellent choice of mod I have to say. I went back on Monday to get my exhuast done. I will probably get Vorsteiner also

How do you like your Akra full sys?
Hey man, yeah I remember seeing you pull in when we were walking to get something to eat. Love the color of your car.

The akra system is amazing so far. I love the sound of it much better than the stock exhaust. Get a lot more looks now too with everything on the car.
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not to make things any more complicated than it already is, but have you checked out 3F lip and rear diffusers??? those things are SICK!! ive seen them in person and they're also really outstanding and fitment seemed perfect!
i'm thinking about modding my car with some 3F cf parts later, so i can't provide personal experience, but from the cars that i've seen them on, it looks like it fits perfectly and it adds an aggressive touch ;p
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Arkym fits pretty good. I was hoping for a higher gloss on the clear coat -- but for the money it looks satisfactory to me.

Front lip transforms the car -- definitely recommended!


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Arkym fits pretty good. I was hoping for a higher gloss on the clear coat -- but for the money it looks satisfactory to me.

Front lip transforms the car -- definitely recommended!


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wow, nice ride!! now, im stuck between arkym and 3f. the thing about vorsteiner is that it's kinda too common... like ive seen alot of cars with vorsteiner parts. heck, my friend just got a vorsteiner front lip and type 2 diffuser, and it looks fantastic... but its everywhere, if u know what i mean... (also, that's why i don't like vmr v710 or anything of that type, but thats another long story...)
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Hopefully this customer will contact us at Challenge or the dealer they purchased from if there is some fitment issue. We have NEVER had any fitment issue to date on any lip. Infact, every dealer to install the lip on th eM3 has commented to us that it fit better than any other lip they have installed. I ask our dealers for very honest feedback to make sure nothing slips through the cracks.
I wouldn't say that you NEVER had any fitment issues. It's that people who bought the product and had fitment issues didn't post pictures of the fitment but directly contacted you guys to remedy the problem. Not trying to troll or anything since a lot of your products look great and build quality is top notch but saying never is a big statement to claim.
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i chose the Akrym for that reason. i was painting to match so i cared most about the fitment over the finish bc we were paiting it anyway. my body shop def liked the akrym fitment the best out of the 3 or 4 i brought in there to check out.

the Akrym is not as known which for me i like that bc then i have something different on my car and not what everyone else has. so for me it was a win win and i am 100% happy with the Akrym stuff

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