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      01-17-2007, 09:12 PM   #1
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2009 E92 M3 Instead?

Hey gang, I was doing some realistic thinking today when it hit me,the E92 M3 is going to be rediculously hyped up before its debut, and raved about when it comes out. And that means that BMW/M haters, sports car guys, luxury brand guys, and plain old street folks are going to want one. The battle for the top performance car is going around once again, rivaling the HP wars in the 60's & 70's. And hopefully the new M3 will be beyond our wildest dreams, and once again be the car to have.

What all that crap spells to us future buyers is...MARK UPS!!! I am guesstimating that when the E92 M3 launches here in the states, the buzz surrounding it will generate a massive demand for the car. All the cars will be sold out for the first few months to the buyers like some of you, with deposits, etc... And then when those are done with being sold, the magazines and tv shows will have been around showing how phenomenal the car is and yadda, yadda, yadda. Which in turn will produce the second huge wave of banwaggoners, stunners, etc..that will want this amazing car.

And by this point you can be sure that the little old E92 M3, which was introduced at, and will be listed on the bmwusa website at $58,000US for base, will be selling for a little over $65,000US at dealers. Now, when you mosey* on into your local dealer with your mind set on buying one, they only have 2 there, in a terrible color! And in 6spd! and its marked up , and not going to budge from that rediculous mark up.

Fortunately for you its only another 2 months before the 2009 models roll in!!!!!!!!!! Not because you get to have an '09 as opposed to an '08, but because all the ugly ones have been leased off to fat corporate stunners, the buzz has died down, and you have had a chance to see what the car is all about, including a couple of test drives, hit up the forums to get some personal feedback, and read the R&T and C&D reviews and have seen that its all its hyped up to be...and that its worth your investment. And thankfully by the time you have consulted this purchase with your mates and the wife, the first '09 in you color and options is at your local dealer waiting for you, for $600 over MSRP.

Ha! You may not have had one of the first few M3's on the street, but you didn't settle on a color you didn't want and aren't going to take such a bad deappreciation* when trade in time comes around. In fact, you saved yourself $5KUS on just a little bit of a wait.

And for those of us that are going to be breaking the bank to get this M3, especially us SoCaler's that haven't signed a contract @ MSRP for whatever reason, this theory is especially helpful. But, if you have your car waiting with a deposit, then rock on brother!

P.S. Sorry for the shitload of typo's, I was in a hurry. (lol, who am I kidding, I just can't spell)

Bottomline here is that maybe it will be a good idea to wait for the buzz to die down. Before buying the car.
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      01-17-2007, 09:30 PM   #2
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hahahaha !! Nice post..true. My lease is due on 2009...so I will be reading everything about the car and what people think about it's performace..ect. I'm not in a rush but I gotta say it's very entertaning to see everybody posting about what it could be and should be...For sure it's going to be nice. Just have to be patience and enjoy every drive at a time.
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      01-18-2007, 12:30 AM   #3
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Lol, this post is just to give an idea. I think it will be most likely what I will do.
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      01-18-2007, 01:09 AM   #4
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I have to get it in 2009 or 2010 even...
I am sure that everything will be settled by then.
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      01-19-2007, 01:19 AM   #5
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I'm already locked in to an '08 at MSRP. No mark up for me. But then again I don't live in So Cal. Thank God.
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      01-19-2007, 07:20 PM   #6
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I'm already locked in to an '08 at MSRP. No mark up for me. But then again I don't live in So Cal. Thank God.
Ditto for me.

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      01-19-2007, 11:08 PM   #7
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I have to get it in 2009 or 2010 even...
I am sure that everything will be settled by then.
08 M3 will have the bugs, so its best to wait for the 09s.

... plus its best to be a second owner, and have the 09 M3 guys take the depreciation.

So, it will be 2010 when I get my e92/M3. I agree! after all this hype!
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08 M3 will have the bugs, so its best to wait for the 09s.

... plus its best to be a second owner, and have the 09 M3 guys take the depreciation.

So, it will be 2010 when I get my e92/M3. I agree! after all this hype!
New car "bugs" don't worry me anymore. I'd rather buy one when they are in high demand. Hype does not matter if you are not paying more than MRSP. Quite the contrary, you should use it to your advantage.
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New car "bugs" don't worry me anymore. I'd rather buy one when they are in high demand. Hype does not matter if you are not paying more than MRSP. Quite the contrary, you should use it to your advantage.
I second that. The M5 E60 was quite well-engineered, hope that's the role model for the M3. The only concern in the M5 was/is the SMG. As I prefer the manual I don't worry.
Every year you wait, you approach the facelift more. So if someone really wants to wait he would have to wait 'till the facelift in 2010. That's just too da** long...

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When the e46 was introduced, there were laguna seca demos sent out to the centers. No word on whether or not they will do that this time around. If you have an order there is no chance you will have an "ugly" color unless you order it for yourself. There won't be extra M3's sitting around on lots. My center has the first 12 sold already. Management said I could have slot #4. Fine with me, I'm paying $500 over invoice.

As far as depreciation is concerned, I'm not worried. This is an M3 we're talking about, right? I think this BMW will have a higher demand than the M5 and M6 because it is relatively more affordable and well, it's an M3. Although I do not agree with centers that mark up BMWs, it does have a positive impact on resale. I will still be able to sell my M3 a year after I get mine close to the original MSRP. The demand will still be high and I predict centers will still be taking orders for M3's that won't be delivered for months later. If you want an M3 from me, I'm taking orders for model year 2009 already or you can have my slightly used 07 at the end of 08.
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As for top dog, rumor has it that Nissan's GTR will generate 450HP with a twin turbo V6, and that one of Cadillac's CTS versions may sport a detuned version the new engine from the upcoming Corvette SS with a 600 HP supercharged V8.

It would be interesting to see a direct injection, biturbo version of BMW's V8.
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Don't forget about the 7spd dual clutch gearbox and greatest AWD system ever.

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As for top dog, rumor has it that Nissan's GTR will generate 450HP with a twin turbo V6, and that one of Cadillac's CTS versions may sport a detuned version the new engine from the upcoming Corvette SS with a 600 HP supercharged V8.

It would be interesting to see a direct injection, biturbo version of BMW's V8.
HP while important, doesn't mean top dog honors in this forum at least. Try Mustangchatfriends.com maybe but handling is just as important if not more. The M3 or a 911 will always be top dog in that department. NO doubt the Nissan and Cadillac will be incredible until you require use of the steering wheel.
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David, the Nissan Skyline not great in handling? The R33 skyline held the lap record for a production car at the Nurburgring when it was first introduced in '95. (7.59) which is phenomenal.
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08 M3 will have the bugs, so its best to wait for the 09s.

... plus its best to be a second owner, and have the 09 M3 guys take the depreciation.

So, it will be 2010 when I get my e92/M3. I agree! after all this hype!
I don't care about depreciation and I am against used cars.
If I am afraid of depreciation of new M3, I would get E92

Anyways, 2010 is the right time for me.
I will be ordering mine around 2009 winter so I can get it around spring time.
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I agree generally with that statement but with the exception of sportscars. Who ever buys a M3 is going to rev the shit out of it especially those who keeps it for a year or two. If I am buying a Lexus or Toyota I would not care as much but I wearily of buying 2nd hand sportscar
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I don't care about depreciation and I am against used cars.
If I am afraid of depreciation of new M3, I would get E92

Anyways, 2010 is the right time for me.
I will be ordering mine around 2009 winter so I can get it around spring time.
same here! lets see if mine materialize, my car payments will soon be finished by then, i hope to keep the cab and make it a classic and the e90 as DD, and the new M for my new Queen Bee!
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same here! lets see if mine materialize, my car payments will soon be finished by then, i hope to keep the cab and make it a classic and the e90 as DD, and the new M for my new Queen Bee!
...I think I am on the same path but I need some help choosing a car between A4/S4 and 335xi.
Need AWD...:/
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one thing for sure those rumored 335i bugs should be fixed by then
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Good post.

I too am on a list at a dealer that has a strict policy of ONLY selling for MSRP.
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