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      12-19-2006, 10:25 AM   #1
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Do you think the new car will have a more compliant suspension? I heard allot of complain about the existing M3? Do we have any sense of what direction BMW is taking?
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      12-19-2006, 11:49 PM   #2
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I can't imagine the E92 M3 having a softer suspension than it's predecessor. Softer suspension equals lower performance and slower times at the track.
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      12-26-2006, 06:15 PM   #3
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Im sure that all the complaints will be adressed. But you have to remember that the car also has to have a little luxury too...don't expect P-car type handling out of this.
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      12-27-2006, 06:10 PM   #4
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I can't imagine the E92 M3 having a softer suspension than it's predecessor. Softer suspension equals lower performance and slower times at the track.
Softer and Compliant are two totally different terms when it comest to sports suspension. For example, I love what Jeremy from Top Gear said about the Z06 vs. Ferrari. He was perplexed at why anyone would pay for a Ferrari if you could save half your money and buy a Z06. But then he drove both on and off the track. Both cars were insane on the track but only the Ferrari's suspension was compliant enough to be comfortable for the street. It was not softer it was more complient!

I hope the new M3's suspension is more compliant than previous gens and I think it would be a mistake and a step back if BMW didnt strive to do so.

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      12-28-2006, 02:13 AM   #5
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Compliant comes from high quality shocks, not something that comes on most factor cars.
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Independent front and rear suspension would be a plus. With Eibach lowering springs. Ohhhhh Heaven!!!!!!
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      12-28-2006, 08:19 PM   #7
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Eibach is more for looks than performance.

The car has an intependaent rear suspension from the factory so I am not sure what you are getting at.
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Independent front and rear suspension would be a plus. With Eibach lowering springs. Ohhhhh Heaven!!!!!!
Lowering springs..... for performance.... riiiiiiight.

Unless BMW implements some sort of active system (which is unlikely) I think that we will see a similar combination of ride comfort / handling that the E46 had. Which is going to be too hard for some, too soft for others. It's just the way things go. Luckily the aftermarket is out there for both groups. With that being said if you're buying an M3 and you think its too stiff, there may be other cars better suited to your needs in the market.

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Independent front and rear suspension would be a plus. With Eibach lowering springs. Ohhhhh Heaven!!!!!!
lol...springs...

Anyways, as long as it doesn't get softer than E46, I am fine with it.
I won't be tracking as hard as some of us here
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Independent front and rear suspension would be a plus. With Eibach lowering springs. Ohhhhh Heaven!!!!!!
uh....you going to put spring only mod on a M3?
wtf....

and it's an Eibach.......why don't you try some Bilstein
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The New M3 Might have a feature found on some of the newer performance cars, where you have a sports button that allows you to stiffen the ride a little more, either with coil-overs or some new type of pneumatic suspension.

You already have the gear ratio and speed of shift in the E46 M3 and the sports button in extreme mode in the E60 M5 that bumps HP from a smoother 400HP and a few other tweaks here and there to full beast with 500HP.

So keep and eye out; the answer may not be what you are looking for, but we won't know until official release at AutoShow or until BMW releases final specs.

Just as they kept it ambiguous with the top of the E93 until final release; no one was really sure as to the way the roof worked or weather they would still have a soft top cabriolet.
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uh....you going to put spring only mod on a M3?
wtf....

and it's an Eibach.......why don't you try some Bilstein
Mitsubishi uses Bilsteins in their top-shelf Evo MR. It rides AND handles better than the base Evo because of that shock.

The E36 M3 handled great AND was compliant. The E46 lost the compliance, and many have complained did not pick up much (if any) track worthiness.

I hope they "get it right" in the E92!
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The E46 was a step back in terms of handling from the E36. The 01-03 models were a low point in M history. The fixed a number of issues during the 03 year that improved the handling considerably
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The E46 was a step back in terms of handling from the E36. The 01-03 models were a low point in M history. The fixed a number of issues during the 03 year that improved the handling considerably
BMW has had many stiff riding cars recently - 545i Sport, X3, Z4 to name a few.
They used to have the perfect combination between handling and compliant ride.... The runflats have made it worse.... My 06 M3 CiC rides better than my 545i Sport which should not be the case.

I guess the engineers are working on Mini's......
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I suspect they were trying to make the cars feel more sporty to answer some marketing survey.
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