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      09-27-2010, 04:10 PM   #1
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Escort 9500ci in m3

I was just quoted 19 hrs to install the 9500 ci escort for a total cost of $2900. Does this sound right?

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      09-27-2010, 04:19 PM   #2
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wow. ive never had a radar detector installed but that sounds retarded.
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That IS retarded.
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      09-27-2010, 04:28 PM   #4
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It depends on who stealth the install is. I think Escort had a $500 coupon to go towards installation with the purchase from them. I was quoted about $2300 a year ago if memory serves me correctly. I ended up getting the 9500ix and traded in an old passport for $80. I hard wired mine next to the rearview. It is very hard to see from outside the car. I figured I can add laser shifters later if I need to.
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      09-27-2010, 04:30 PM   #5
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$2900? lol


plz tell me you slapped that dude in the face
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      09-27-2010, 05:41 PM   #6
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i was actually just going to post up about the 9500ci install that I did on my '11.

let me first off say that it is a major PITA to install. i watched a ton of videos of the install process and went through a bunch of installs that I saw on this and other forums.

for my install I went all out:
hid the led display inside the autodimming mirror (screwed up the edges of the plastic but i'll be replacing it soon) this took me a good 4 hours to get right
hid the radar receiver inside the driver side kidney and mounted it with some epoxy and ran all the cables through the firewall on the drivers side.

i decided to get lazy and use 3m tape to attach the front laser shifters directly to the bumpers (just did a 600 mile road trip with no issues).

although i did it over the course of 2 days, the whole install probably took 12 hours (i havent run the rear shifter yet) but 19 sounds seriously high especially for a professional installer. Mind you, I've never done car electronics before so a good installer can cut this time down, especially if they have done one before.

Does the $2900 include the 9500ci? On their website it list for like $1500 without the install coupon - $1400 for an install sounds extremly high. After it was all said and done my install cost me $1200 or so (bought the 9500ci NIB on ebay and went through a few crimpers and a hand full of beers)
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      09-27-2010, 06:01 PM   #7
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2900.00 included the detector. Thanks for the replies
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      10-03-2010, 05:31 PM   #9
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i got quoted 1800 and two days for the install.
2900 seems like that guy is ripping you off.
dealers get the unit for like roughly 1100, so if u just buy the unit that already making a lot of money off the purchase only and 75% of the install in my opinion isnt hard with the rite tools. only thing thats a real b*tch is running the wire from the back sensor and where you want to put the display.


Anyone have pictures of there installation. wanna see where ppl put the speaker, display, LED indicator, and i think power switch.
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      10-03-2010, 08:46 PM   #10
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they must have saw ur car
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Can I ask which shop this is? So I know whom not to give business. Never heard such idiotic quote. lol
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FWIW a local shop quoted me $400 for a basic 9500ci install in a E90 335i.
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      11-16-2010, 09:58 AM   #13
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Sounds like to much money. Look for another install place.
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Mine was installed for about $1800.. including the cost of the hardware..

my control unit was put into the ash tray which can still close

this system is not cheap..
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How do you like it? I almost went with one but hard wired a 9500ix instead. I may add the shifter but haven't gotten around to it yet.
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Have you considered...

A Passport Qi45?

It is a relatively new Escort product that costs 1/2 as much as the 9500 and offers very good performance (not quite as sensitive as the 9500 - it is based on the 8500 x50 platform) and has front laser protection for $1,000 dealer installed, all in! Installers love it because it takes 1/10th as much time as the 9500 and can be very easily "stealthed" out as shown below in my custom ashtray mount.

Radar Roy rates the Qi45 among the best ever - 5 badges:
http://www.radarroy.com/2010/04/esco...tector-review/

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"...it easily eclipsed the K40 in radar detection range... In laser-jamming performance the Qi45 simply blew it away... the performance and price of a high-performance dash-mount detector with the advantages of a custom-installed remote."
Review: http://www.escortradar.com/Escort-Pa...i45-review.php



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Link to another thread on this topic: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448231
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      11-16-2010, 04:42 PM   #17
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The 9500ci is better than the Qi45.

If the $2900 includes the 9500ci then it might be worth it. The laser shifters must be mounted level and straight ahead. And they MUST BE TESTED with a real lidar unit to make sure they work. If they do test it correctly then I would say pay the bucks for it. But I don't know of any installers that actually do this. The detector part is not such a big deal, but correct installation of the jammer heads is crucial to their performance.

Remember, you should not be going for an install that hides everything, you should be going for an install that works. As they say "stealth the car, not the install". Try to convey this to the installers as I'm sure they will try to make it look slick, which is what everyone wants, but the jamming usually doesn't work well, or at all, this way. And if the jammers don't work, you've just thrown all that money away. If they mount the heads in such a way that you can adjust them yourself then this may be the best bet.

So, having said all of this, I would not get the 9500ci. I would get the Laser Interceptor and one of the high end detectors. If you already have the 9500ci then disable their laser shifters and get the LI.

Hope this helps.


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      11-19-2010, 01:22 AM   #18
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Heck, for all I know, that was US who quoted you that, if we were including some custom work like the M3 below-the-CD-drive flush-plexiglass-lens option.

We don't work for free, and we aren't Car Toys. Anyone who spends 4 hours on a 9500ci in an E92, shouldn't take apart E92s.

Flush tinted bezel on bench:


Installed and turned on:


USB update port under driver side:


Techflexed custom-terminated cabling:


Trigger LEDs inside turn signal arrows:


Controller (135i)


Rear View install (135i)



Anyone feels a need to slap me, our address in on our website - but please make an appointment

If you don't want an install that nice, this is America - but you won't get an install like that in four hours. Seriously.
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      11-30-2010, 04:09 PM   #19
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anyone that quotes you $1500 additional for install is a rip off. I had one installed on my e92, and the dealer specifically said that installation was included in the price, and further more, the dealer also said that Escort prohibits installers from marking up installation prices. So, the price is essentially set by Escort for both the unit and installation.

Now, going above and beyond the basic full installation very well may be reason to up the installation price, such as custom panels and plexi as previously mentioned. But then again, my installation wasn't exactly basic either and I still didn't get additional installation charges. The GPS antenna was placed inside the breather hole in the hood on the passenger side (the one that isn't an intake for the engine of course), both the display and button panel were flush mounted below the CD player, and I believe custom brackets were made for the front radar antenna and laser shifters. They also flush mounted the speaker and USB port under the dash/steering wheel. At the time I bought the unit, it was about $1800-1900.

So, if all you asked for was basic installation, tell them to kiss it and go find somewhere else.
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...the dealer specifically said that installation was included in the price, and further more, the dealer also said that Escort prohibits installers from marking up installation prices. So, the price is essentially set by Escort for both the unit and installation.
I hate to break it to you, but a car dealer may not have been entirely honest with you.

Escort legally can't, and in practice doesn't, set the sale prices. They announce a $400 install amount. Then the say the following (from their):

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Some vehicles may require optional mounting brackets or additional labor due to the complexity of the vehicle. Most European and exotic cars, Mercedes, Jaguar, Porsche, Audi just to name a few, enclose their engine compartments with additional noise suppression. This makes running wires and mounting units in these vehicles more difficult. Mounting the interior control box behind a dash panel or altering it to fit in a certain area is considered a custom installation.


If you don't want to pay for what is admittedly an expensive installation - albeit of an expensive product into an expensive car - that is certainly your right as an American (and I assume as a Canadian, if that's your thing). The sad part to me is, most installers aren't capable of doing work that's worth of an M3, regardless of what they charge. We have clients who have had us install several detectors into a number of vehicles over a number of years, and they come to us because they trust Tom's work - not because we offer the lowest prices.

So who quoted you that price? Benchmark? Us?
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