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      09-29-2010, 09:01 AM   #45
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Hey thanks for posting that fwmcb. So, it turns out that it will be a 1.6L after all. Assuming the information from the other article is true, this will be the upcoming 1.6L (N13) and not the existing 1.6L Mini motor.

It makes some sense, since these will likely be used in FWD Mini applications from the get-go, whereas the 2L probably won't be used in FWD applications until the 1 series MPV (or whatever they are going to call it) comes to market.

If the rumored 222hp figure turns out be true, that represents a nice bump vs. the GM 1.8L they are currently using in entry level models. Also, that's higher than the current BMW-PSA 1.6L turbo makes in any application as far as I know, including the JCW.

They mention "fuel savings innovations" so it sounds like this deal is indeed motivated by the need to produce cleaner more efficient vehicles than they feel they can achieve with current GM engines.
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Autoblog is suggesting the motor may only be used in the rumored upcoming Countryman-based 9-2.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/29/o...-1-6-liter-ga/

They don't list a source for that information so I suppose it is just their speculation for now. I'm sure that, if Saab does used the Mini platform for a future vehicle, it will use the BMW engine. It only makes sense. I just don't necessarily agree it will be limited to that vehicle. We'll have to wait and see as more information comes out.
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It would be smart for the investors that picked up Saab to make this happen, grow a great relationship with BMW over the course of 10-15 years, then sell Saab off to them...
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It would be smart for the investors that picked up Saab to make this happen, grow a great relationship with BMW over the course of 10-15 years, then sell Saab off to them...
Why would BMW be interested in buying Saab. They'll always be a step or two above Saab in terms of prestige and it seems as if BMW is intent on using the 1 series and the Mini to target the lower price points.
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