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      02-19-2012, 02:28 PM   #1
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AKRA Delete R vs OBD II scanner

So.. I'm curious. The Delete R is essentially clearing the 'check engine' light whenever it pops on for 400 dollars if you're cat less. What is the difference between it an manually clearing the code via a 20 dollar scanner whenever it comes on? Besides simple convenience?
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      02-19-2012, 03:40 PM   #2
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      02-19-2012, 03:50 PM   #3
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So.. I'm curious. The Delete R is essentially clearing the 'check engine' light whenever it pops on for 400 dollars if you're cat less. What is the difference between it an manually clearing the code via a 20 dollar scanner whenever it comes on? Besides simple convenience?
You will have to keep plugging the scanner in and clearing the code continuously. Besides, the Delete-R doesn't just clear the code, it prevents it from coming on.
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      02-19-2012, 03:55 PM   #4
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You will have to keep plugging the scanner in and clearing the code continuously. Besides, the Delete-R doesn't just clear the code, it prevents it from coming on.
Continuously? As in like every 60-100 miles? I was just wondering about this. Seems like the prime advantage is just convenience.
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You will have to keep plugging the scanner in and clearing the code continuously. Besides, the Delete-R doesn't just clear the code, it prevents it from coming on.
No, it doesn't. It just clears the codes. (all the codes)
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No, it doesn't. It just clears the codes. (all the codes)
Wrong. Clears only codes stemming from secondary O2 Sensors.
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Wrong. Clears only codes stemming from secondary O2 Sensors.
We've had this debate before. You can't clear just a single code. You either clear all or nothing. I've owned one. it cleared everything.
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We've had this debate before. You can't clear just a single code. You either clear all or nothing. I've owned one. it cleared everything.
Interesting. So it might actually be safer and better to just have a scanner to make sure you aren't throwing any other engine codes.
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Interesting. So it might actually be safer and better to just have a scanner to make sure you aren't throwing any other engine codes.
what is better is just getting a tune and dont worry about the problem...
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what is better is just getting a tune and dont worry about the problem...
Goodbye to warranty my friend. No can do
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if you have gone catless chances are a mod unfriendly dealer is going to blame that and goodbye warranty... or find a mod friendly dealer and there should not be a problem with a few basic bolt-ons.

if you are that concerned about warranty leave the car stock.

or get a Dinan tune and then you have warranty
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if you have gone catless chances are a mod unfriendly dealer is going to blame that and goodbye warranty... or find a mod friendly dealer and there should not be a problem with a few basic bolt-ons.

if you are that concerned about warranty leave the car stock.

or get a Dinan tune and then you have warranty

Nah I was told by my dealer that exhaust related replacements would void your exhaust related warranty issues only. There is no way for them to correlate engine failure with a full exhaust. Whereas with a tune, they could easily do it. Most of the tunes modify vanos and such. Plus an exhaust can easily put back to stock with no traces vs a tune leaving traces in shadow memory. Call me paranoid even if the chances are infinitesimal, but you would be fucked with a tune, Dinan included.

Back on to topic though. I had always heard that the delete R only reset the 02 sensor code not the whole system. IF it truly does reset the whole system then it really only has one advantage and that is simple convenience of not resetting it manually on regular occasions.
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I dont know how other dealers are but the guys at my local dealer absolutely love it when I pull in the service dept and give me nothing but compliments about how nice my car sounds. No issues here
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We've had this debate before. You can't clear just a single code. You either clear all or nothing. I've owned one. it cleared everything.
I thought it only cleared codes regarding emissions as well.
So are you saying that if something else malfunctions in my car, the engine light will not come on and the delete-r will have cleared it?
I thought it worked as the same function as how a tune would bypass the CELs and SES' and what not.
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I dont know how other dealers are but the guys at my local dealer absolutely love it when I pull in the service dept and give me nothing but compliments about how nice my car sounds. No issues here
Well my friend. Why would they care right now? Their tune might change if you blew your motor. ( no pun intended )
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I thought it only cleared codes regarding emissions as well.
So are you saying that if something else malfunctions in my car, the engine light will not come on and the delete-r will have cleared it?
I thought it worked as the same function as how a tune would bypass the CELs and SES' and what not.
me too
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I have DELETE-R installed on my car with open exhaust... And weird thing... couple of days ago, i was driving and i get a check engine light saying something like Catlyst something... i don't remember. Within 10 seconds it just cleared itself... So it looks like it deletes all.

I don't think there is a way to just clear one code... either all or none.
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No it clears only emission codes. I tested mine out for this purpose with a tire pressure code.

With the Bav Tech tool you can clear individual codes as well (by groupings).
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Don't mod then...

LOL.. some mods are warranty friendly, others not so much. You and your supercharger.. you bastard
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I'd ask the dealership... I think you are really better off with a tune, I'd just asks the SA and manager if they'd have a problem with that. Many dealerships are totally ok with that.
I essentially did do this. They didn't seem to care about the exhaust. Software on the other hand, seemed to be in a gray area of sorts. Trust me, I really want a tune... I just cant justify losing 2.5 years of warranty for it. The sad thing is I dont beat on the car... I'm averaging 18.7mpg lol.
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What about a Dinan tune? Most dealerships have no issues with that... it's fairly conservative, and will take care of your CEL.
The dealership I go to doesn't offer Dinan parts sadly.
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I'd ask the dealership... I think you are really better off with a tune, I'd just asks the SA and manager if they'd have a problem with that. Many dealerships are totally ok with that.

and when u do actually have a problem, that SA and manager are no longer working there....u just never know. and then things change...always happens when shit hits the fan
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