BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board
 
E92 Lighting
View Poll Results: Will you secretly DNA test your newborn w/o telling your wife?
YES 22 57.89%
NO 16 42.11%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-20-2010, 04:14 PM   #1
samwoo2go
Banned
 
Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SoCal

Posts: 782
iTrader: (12)

Must read for all Father and future Fathers.

I just saw a news report on the news regarding laws, especially in CA for child support and infidelity. This is some FUCKKKKKED UPPPP SHITTTTT

So apparently, you are liable for Child support in a divorce even if the kid is rejected to be yours by positive DNA evidence as long as the kid was conceived by your wife while you guys were married. Let that soak in for a minute there...

Think about it. Guy weds girl, after a year, girl gets pregnant, a child is born. 5 years later, guy finds out it wasn't his through accident. Would seem to be legit grounds for a divorce right. Fuck the cheating ho, and fuck the bastard child right...wait a minute, not so fast, you were married to the bitch before she got prego, that makes you the liable "father" regardless of DNA evidence.

The supposed "reasoning" behind this bullshit is that the state wants whole families first and foremost, which is basically saying "look you raised him for 5 years like it's your own, you can do it for another 13." Well I say fuck that and it should be my choice.

The only way to get out of it, is if you contest the infidelity within the first 2 years of the child's life. Which means that guys....DNA TESTING is essential for newborns. It's not really a trust thing IMO, it's just a fucked up legal situation if you don't.

DNA testing laws.
You can get it done without your spouse's consent, but it won't hold up in court.
To get 1 to hold up in court, you must have your wife's consent.
But I would def get it done secretly just to make sure. if it's yours, hooray, if not, then go about it as you wish, but at least you know.

Poll is will you secretly DNA test your newborn knowing this information now? Poll is private.
samwoo2go is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 04:19 PM   #2
DougLikesBMW
Fapmin
 
DougLikesBMW's Avatar
 
Drives: '03 E46 330Ci
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Plano, Texas

Posts: 2,661
iTrader: (0)

Yep, that's pussified America for you.

There were a couple episodes on the Tom Leykis show about this, did you hear this there?
DougLikesBMW is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 05:02 PM   #3
Kensta335
Brigadier General
 
Kensta335's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Coupe
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: So Cal 626

Posts: 3,633
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DougLikesBMW View Post
Yep, that's pussified America for you.

There were a couple episodes on the Tom Leykis show about this, did you hear this there?
I would test.

Damn, haven't heard Tom Leykis since 97.1 (SoCal) dropped him. Is he still on the radio or do you have to stream him online now?
Kensta335 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 05:10 PM   #4
DougLikesBMW
Fapmin
 
DougLikesBMW's Avatar
 
Drives: '03 E46 330Ci
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Plano, Texas

Posts: 2,661
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kensta335 View Post
I would test.

Damn, haven't heard Tom Leykis since 97.1 (SoCal) dropped him. Is he still on the radio or do you have to stream him online now?
I don't live in Cali. I heard about him a while back on some forums so I looked him up on YouTube. Listened to almost every video that is associated with him on there.

I think he will go back on the radio in 2011/12 or something, can't remember which he said.
DougLikesBMW is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 05:34 PM   #5
Kroy
Brigadier General
 
Kroy's Avatar
 
Drives: E90
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Posts: 3,035
iTrader: (1)

last night while having dinner with some friends, one of my friends got a text. he learned that a friend of his found out that his girlfriend is preggos and it's not his kid. i know the situation sucks for the guy, but all i could think about at the time was how lucky he was to find out.
Kroy is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 05:58 PM   #6
twoturboz
Captain
 
Drives: fast
Join Date: May 2010
Location: CA

Posts: 738
iTrader: (0)

another win out of my state
__________________
twoturboz is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 06:00 PM   #7
fatjoez
baller
 
fatjoez's Avatar
 
Drives: lambo
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: the crib

Posts: 675
iTrader: (0)

with respect,
what human being with a heart,
would raise a child as his own for 5 years,
then disown him & not want to pay child support because it wasnt "genetically" his?
__________________
fs: oem lip spoiler - from e82 135i , pm me
fatjoez is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 06:31 PM   #8
DarkRider23
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2006 325xi
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Jersey

Posts: 444
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatjoez View Post
with respect,
what human being with a heart,
would raise a child as his own for 5 years,
then disown him & not want to pay child support because it wasnt "genetically" his?
That's what I was thinking. I would keep that child and raise him as my own. Something as stupid as genetics wouldn't stop me.

I love how men are always getting shafted in divorces, though. It's quite hilarious, if you ask me. Very rarely do I hear a story of a woman getting screwed in a divorce.
DarkRider23 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 06:34 PM   #9
Kensta335
Brigadier General
 
Kensta335's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Coupe
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: So Cal 626

Posts: 3,633
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatjoez View Post
with respect,
what human being with a heart,
would raise a child as his own for 5 years,
then disown him & not want to pay child support because it wasnt "genetically" his?
I get what you're saying but that man should be able to choose if he wants to or not.
Kensta335 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 08:01 PM   #10
Kroy
Brigadier General
 
Kroy's Avatar
 
Drives: E90
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Posts: 3,035
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatjoez View Post
with respect,
what human being with a heart,
would raise a child as his own for 5 years,
then disown him & not want to pay child support because it wasnt "genetically" his?
Thankfully never been in this position (knock on wood) but what kind of woman cheats on her spouse, then forces him to raise someone else's child? What right does the woman have to force that financial and emotional burden upon an unsuspecting man? Instead of punishing the woman who has deliberately cheated, lied and conned, an innocent man will be penalized. Funny how our courts give thieves and con-men jail time but cheating wives get half. lol

I keep thinking of that Kanye song, Gold Digger.
Kroy is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 08:42 PM   #11
BTM
Banned
 
Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!

Posts: 10,314
iTrader: (11)

Garage List
Just another reason not to move to Cali...
BTM is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 10:49 PM   #12
DougLikesBMW
Fapmin
 
DougLikesBMW's Avatar
 
Drives: '03 E46 330Ci
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Plano, Texas

Posts: 2,661
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BTM View Post
Just another reason not to get married
Fixed that for you buddy
DougLikesBMW is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 10:54 PM   #13
Dan in PA
Captain
 
Dan in PA's Avatar
 
Drives: 2007 E92 335i
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: PA

Posts: 730
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by DougLikesBMW View Post
Fixed that for you buddy




Doug speaks the truth.
__________________
2013 BMW Z4 sDrive35i|DCT|M-Sport|iDrive|Premium Sound|Heated Seats|Comfort Access|PDC|Deep Sea Blue|Cream
[At the port of exit awaiting a shipping vessel since 8/17/12]
Dan in PA is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      08-20-2010, 11:42 PM   #14
san~man
Tired
 
san~man's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW-less
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA

Posts: 2,610
iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatjoez View Post
with respect,
what human being with a heart,
would raise a child as his own for 5 years,
then disown him & not want to pay child support because it wasnt "genetically" his?

While I agree, the "father" should still have a choice, as cruel and distorted as it may be

Californian lawmakers have some fucked up logic
__________________
BMW-less
san~man is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-21-2010, 02:05 PM   #15
Vanity
Private First Class
 
Vanity's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW E90 LCI
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: BC, Canada

Posts: 123
iTrader: (0)

I wonder if that law exists in Canada.

But under these circumstances, I still wouldn't DNA test my child. While the judicial consequences might be fucked up should the kid not be mine, I'd be destroying the trust-aspect in my marriage by secretly doing a DNA test. To me, if I can't put the right ring on the right women and trust her on the legitimacy of my newborn, I deserved to get fucked over -- big time.
__________________
Vanity is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      08-21-2010, 04:21 PM   #16
jibaholic101
Brigadier General
 
Drives: women wild
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Charleston, SC

Posts: 3,503
iTrader: (0)

^^still, even the people you trust most can do things that will break your trust and that are unheard of. there are sly people out there, who are very good at keeping up appearances and going to great lengths to hide dirt. if the test is a match, end of story and you never mention it again. however, if the child isnt yours, doesnt it seem like a more fundamental lack of trust for the wife to a) have an affair b) get pregnant c) not tell the husband about either and the chance that the child might not be his?

absolutely believe in a test secretly
__________________
some italian, german, and japanese ones; and on order more of the same
jibaholic101 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-21-2010, 06:12 PM   #17
E90 87ss
Lieutenant
 
E90 87ss's Avatar
 
Drives: 325i, W212 AMG
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NJ/Philly

Posts: 554
iTrader: (0)

i really don't know much about family law, so forgive my ignorance... but will the actual father be responsible for child support also? Really think only the biological parents should be responsible following a divorce.
E90 87ss is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-21-2010, 06:28 PM   #18
PINeely
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2009 E90 N54
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Jackson, MS

Posts: 1,548
iTrader: (0)

Seriously messed up. Here I was thinking that the term "CHILD support" didn't leave much room for interpretation.
__________________
PINeely is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-21-2010, 06:57 PM   #19
Vanity
Private First Class
 
Vanity's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW E90 LCI
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: BC, Canada

Posts: 123
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jibaholic101 View Post
^^still, even the people you trust most can do things that will break your trust and that are unheard of. there are sly people out there, who are very good at keeping up appearances and going to great lengths to hide dirt. if the test is a match, end of story and you never mention it again. however, if the child isnt yours, doesnt it seem like a more fundamental lack of trust for the wife to a) have an affair b) get pregnant c) not tell the husband about either and the chance that the child might not be his?

absolutely believe in a test secretly
While it may be good security to invest in a secret DNA test, think about the after-effects. If I couldn't trust my wife on the legitimacy of my newborn child then, what can I trust her on? If an issue so large weathers me down to do a secret test, what about the daily things she does? What happens when she spends the night out with the girls? Do I secretly follow her?

I'd reason that following her and making sure she isn't cheating on me might be good security to invest for myself. In fact, following her around would reassure me 100% that my woman (be it girlfriend or wife) isn't/hasn't been sleeping around, more so than a secret DNA test would about my newborn child. But doing shady stuff like this opens up a can of worms. It also isn't the way to build relationships. It also means you haven't found the right woman who is comfortable enough to drop appearances and open-up.

I still stand firm with no DNA test if I were in that position. I'm sure if you had a child on the way, you would be celebrating about being a father rather than worrying if he's yours or not. And if you were to do the latter, I'd suspect that you already have doubts about the relationship. I've never heard of a new-father, whom is in a sound relationship, to secretly DNA test his child "just because" the judicial system might fuck him over years down the road.
__________________
Vanity is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      08-21-2010, 08:13 PM   #20
SonnyJack
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: '09 E92 M3 6MT Jerez Black
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Laurel, MD

Posts: 357
iTrader: (1)

No shit! How about not being dumb enough to marry some skank where you would need to even worry about her cheating on you. Yeah, shit happens but come on now, if you're foolish enough to marry some chick who cheats on you and then 5 years later you find out the kids not yours, you just gonna turn off your feelings for the kid?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanity View Post
While it may be good security to invest in a secret DNA test, think about the after-effects. If I couldn't trust my wife on the legitimacy of my newborn child then, what can I trust her on? If an issue so large weathers me down to do a secret test, what about the daily things she does? What happens when she spends the night out with the girls? Do I secretly follow her?

I'd reason that following her and making sure she isn't cheating on me might be good security to invest for myself. In fact, following her around would reassure me 100% that my woman (be it girlfriend or wife) isn't/hasn't been sleeping around, more so than a secret DNA test would about my newborn child. But doing shady stuff like this opens up a can of worms. It also isn't the way to build relationships. It also means you haven't found the right woman who is comfortable enough to drop appearances and open-up.

I still stand firm with no DNA test if I were in that position. I'm sure if you had a child on the way, you would be celebrating about being a father rather than worrying if he's yours or not. And if you were to do the latter, I'd suspect that you already have doubts about the relationship. I've never heard of a new-father, whom is in a sound relationship, to secretly DNA test his child "just because" the judicial system might fuck him over years down the road.
SonnyJack is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      08-21-2010, 09:37 PM   #21
hks786
Major General
 
Drives: *
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UK

Posts: 5,351
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatjoez View Post
with respect,
what human being with a heart,
would raise a child as his own for 5 years,
then disown him & not want to pay child support because it wasnt "genetically" his?
+1

I have to agree.
__________________
hks786 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      08-21-2010, 09:40 PM   #22
DougLikesBMW
Fapmin
 
DougLikesBMW's Avatar
 
Drives: '03 E46 330Ci
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Plano, Texas

Posts: 2,661
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanity View Post
While it may be good security to invest in a secret DNA test, think about the after-effects. If I couldn't trust my wife on the legitimacy of my newborn child then, what can I trust her on? If an issue so large weathers me down to do a secret test, what about the daily things she does? What happens when she spends the night out with the girls? Do I secretly follow her?

I'd reason that following her and making sure she isn't cheating on me might be good security to invest for myself. In fact, following her around would reassure me 100% that my woman (be it girlfriend or wife) isn't/hasn't been sleeping around, more so than a secret DNA test would about my newborn child. But doing shady stuff like this opens up a can of worms. It also isn't the way to build relationships. It also means you haven't found the right woman who is comfortable enough to drop appearances and open-up.

I still stand firm with no DNA test if I were in that position. I'm sure if you had a child on the way, you would be celebrating about being a father rather than worrying if he's yours or not. And if you were to do the latter, I'd suspect that you already have doubts about the relationship. I've never heard of a new-father, whom is in a sound relationship, to secretly DNA test his child "just because" the judicial system might fuck him over years down the road.
Lol yeah fucking right. Speak for yourself. I'd kick that cheating whore straight to the curb.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SonnyJack View Post
No shit! How about not being dumb enough to marry some skank where you would need to even worry about her cheating on you. Yeah, shit happens but come on now, if you're foolish enough to marry some chick who cheats on you and then 5 years later you find out the kids not yours, you just gonna turn off your feelings for the kid?
I think while the 'opens a can of worms' or 'what can you trust her on then' arguments are somewhat valid, but it would be incredibly foolish to not protect yourself financially. I mean women have pulled this shit on men time and time again.

I hope you guys don't skip out on prenups, because you two sound like the kind of guys who would.

Better to be safe than sorry.
DougLikesBMW is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:56 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST