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      08-18-2010, 01:17 PM   #45
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Luckily, USDM GT-Rs don't have the hood rams for pedestrian protection. That is very unfortunate that the sensors are so sensitive.

Then it must be a EU thing,

its all based on the Distance between the bonnet and the engine, hence the pop up rams,

its apparently based on a v specific area of strike apparently, the guy was just unlucky i think, but if its happened once, it ll happen again no doubt.

People are concerned that the car (in the uk at least) was becoming uninsurable due to the cost of parts! which you can only get in one place incidentally....

to make the chap feel better nissan uk gave him a free jacket! nice of them lol!

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      08-18-2010, 03:59 PM   #46
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Go for GTR if you have a chance, but I will tell you one thing.
YOU WILL BE DISSAPOINTED AT THE INTERIOR.
It is a lot less luxury compare to M3.
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      08-18-2010, 05:20 PM   #47
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I have been doing an assload of research on the GT-R lately as I am interested in one as well. I know the looks are subjective -- I happen to like the looks alot. The performance speaks for itself. The interior while not as nice as the M, is not bad at all and considerably better than the Vette. The one thing that may keep me from buying one is all the noises the damn thing reportedly makes. I've been a member of NAGTROC for over a year now and you will not believe the number of threads about transmission noise, clutch noise, differential noise, rattles and vibrations. I have not yet driven one but you can bet your ass that if the car has that much clunking, thunking and rattling, I will not own one. I know the car is not supposed to ride/sound like a Coupe Deville but for something I'm going to drive 85% of the time, it has to be refined. Having said that, I have pretty much ruled the Vette out and now if the stories about the GT-R are true, I will go for M3.

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I have been doing an assload of research on the GT-R lately as I am interested in one as well. I know the looks are subjective -- I happen to like the looks alot. The performance speaks for itself. The interior while not as nice as the M, is not bad at all and considerably better than the Vette. The one thing that may keep me from buying one is all the noises the damn thing reportedly makes. I've been a member of NAGTROC for over a year now and you will not believe the number of threads about transmission noise, clutch noise, differential noise, rattles and vibrations. I have not yet driven one but you can bet your ass that if the car has that much clunking, thunking and rattling, I will not own one. I know the car is not supposed to ride/sound like a Coupe Deville but for something I'm going to drive 85% of the time, it has to be refined. Having said that, I have pretty much ruled the Vette and now if the stories about the GT-R are true, I will go for M3.
good choice...I mean who hasnt looked at the GTR? its a fast car, but thats about it I feel that If I owned that car I would eventually get very bored with it because its not a "drivers" car but it is still very unique...every time I get into the M you just get a different "feel" like your connected to the car....I never bothered looking at the vette, not my cup of tea...maybe the ZR1, probably not though

If I were you I would either get the M or wait for awhile and jump into something else....the 458 looks too good
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I have been doing an assload of research on the GT-R lately as I am interested in one as well. I know the looks are subjective -- I happen to like the looks alot. The performance speaks for itself. The interior while not as nice as the M, is not bad at all and considerably better than the Vette. The one thing that may keep me from buying one is all the noises the damn thing reportedly makes. I've been a member of NAGTROC for over a year now and you will not believe the number of threads about transmission noise, clutch noise, differential noise, rattles and vibrations. I have not yet driven one but you can bet your ass that if the car has that much clunking, thunking and rattling, I will not own one. I know the car is not supposed to ride/sound like a Coupe Deville but for something I'm going to drive 85% of the time, it has to be refined. Having said that, I have pretty much ruled the Vette and now if the stories about the GT-R are true, I will go for M3.
The GT-R definitely has it share of odd noises. I didn't notice too many rattles in my 2011, but the transmission definitely had a few odd sounds from time to time. Also, the big run flat tires aren't the quietest things on the road. With all that said, if you stick with the stock exhaust I wouldn't consider the car too noisy as far as sports cars go. Of course, the 2011 models have extra sound insulation so an older car will be louder. This is nothing some Dynamat can't fix. I will say that with my HKS resonated mid-pipe and Legamax exhaust (which is considered a vary mild setup for the GT-R from a noise perspective) I couldn't use the bluetooth at highways speeds due to interior noise.
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gtr is a really interesting car, came very close to swapping over the past week...but i think i am gonna wait till next year and either try it or wait and probs just goto a gt3.
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      08-19-2010, 10:41 AM   #51
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If you want a car that is insanely fun and had all the power you could want, get a 911 turbo instead. And you can have it with a 6mt too.

80k vs 135k.... BIG difference
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80k vs 135k.... BIG difference
There is an 07 turbo with 7500 miles for $95000. I would rather spend 15K more for that car.
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There is an 07 turbo with 7500 miles for $95000. I would rather spend 15K more for that car.

An 07 for 95k or a 2010/11 for 80+ K......... Porsche is AWESOME, but not worth that premium for a 4 year old model
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An 07 for 95k or a 2010/11 for 80+ K......... Porsche is AWESOME, but not worth that premium for a 4 year old model
Maybe not, but at least I know that the techs would be able to fix the 911 if there was a problem. Not saying that the GT-R techs couldn't fix the car if there was a problem but these guys have been working on Sentras.
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Maybe not, but at least I know that the techs would be able to fix the 911 if there was a problem. Not saying that the GT-R techs couldn't fix the car if there was a problem but these guys have been working on Sentras.
Actually, there are only certain dealerships and certain techs that are allowed to deal with the GT-R. You will deal directly with the service manager whenever you bring in the car and he, the owner and the GT-R certified techs are the only ones allowed to drive or work on the car. Nissan has tried pretty hard to make the GT-R buyer feel like he/she is getting a better service experience than the "normal" Nissan buyer.
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Actually, there are only certain dealerships and certain techs that are allowed to deal with the GT-R. You will deal directly with the service manager whenever you bring in the car and he, the owner and the GT-R certified techs are the only ones allowed to drive or work on the car. Nissan has tried pretty hard to make the GT-R buyer feel like he/she is getting a better service experience than the "normal" Nissan buyer.
I see your point but there aren't many GT-Rs on the road and these techs are not just sitting around waiting for a GT-R to come in. So yes, the techs may be certified to work on the GT-R but are mostly working on sentras, maximas, etc...
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gtr is a really interesting car, came very close to swapping over the past week...but i think i am gonna wait till next year and either try it or wait and probs just goto a gt3.
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      08-19-2010, 04:56 PM   #58
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I never quite figured out why Nissan decided to put the GTR under their Nissan brand vs Infinity... Wasn't that the whole point of the Infinity brand? To provide a luxury level of service to capture that market who buys mid-upper end cars?

Another good reason to wait is to see what the 2012 M3 will offer, I am really hoping for some kind of performance package or upgrade being available. I think it would be worth the cost to BMW to do that because the competition is so close on the M3 right now that providing this would probably save enough sales to pay for it. I'm sure a lot of the R&D can be stolen from their race teams GT builds.
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      08-19-2010, 07:19 PM   #59
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There is an 07 turbo with 7500 miles for $95000. I would rather spend 15K more for that car.
Check this out.... '07 997TT for $79K with 18k miles. If I'm spending more than $75K on a car, I'm getting this...........or a CLK63AMG Black Series.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
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I drove my friends GTR and I gotta say.. that car is a beast. Easily faster than a M3, and toss in a few thousand on a ECU tune and a muffler and it's faster than 99% of the stuff out there. The only downsides really are that the car is stiff, the styling (subjective), and lack of some creature comforts I'd expect in a 80k car.
Doesn't sound like money is a big problem for you. Lucky! But the brake job for the GTR is about 8K. If you track the car at all, that could add up. Just a thought.
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i dont like the looks of the datsun gtr
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shift@red, i haven't driven gtr or 997.1 turbo, but I remember reading somewhere that the gtr was actually more fun to drive than the 997.1 turbo. it has less lag, steering felt more direct, handle better, etc. that's what I remember when I read that mag awhile ago.

i have no doubt the new 997.2 turbo is a much better car though but you pay dearly for it when buying new.
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i dont like the looks of the datsun gtr
I like it alot in person.
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I thought they were ugly too.
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shift@red, i haven't driven gtr or 997.1 turbo, but I remember reading somewhere that the gtr was actually more fun to drive than the 997.1 turbo. it has less lag, steering felt more direct, handle better, etc. that's what I remember when I read that mag awhile ago.

i have no doubt the new 997.2 turbo is a much better car though but you pay dearly for it when buying new.

I have a 997.1 TT and its more fun to drive than my GTR but its not easier. The reward of understanding rear engine bias and the chassis is well worth the learning experience in the 997. But I still cant drive the 997 to the limits of the GTR. Faster in, thru, and out of the turns; these are some of the performance benefits of the GTR. In the GTR, I feel like Im in a big shell whereas in the 997TT I feel Im part of the car. So while I can go faster in the GTR and launch quicker, speed is not the only facet. Steering to me is about equal and braking does slightly favor the GTR. But being part of car versus feeling inside one gives the nod to the 997. These are my opinions.

For a DD or only one car, the 997 is the easy no brainer and so is the M3 but for a 2nd, 3rd or etc car the GTR is very hard to beat.
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I am already working on a trade my self lol i want a gtr
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