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      08-13-2010, 02:03 PM   #1
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Winter Tires...HELP!!

What brand of winter tires are the best? I live on the snow belt and I just picked up my brand new m3 and I am in need of the best of the best winter tires. I heard Nokian tyres? or what about michelin? I dont want studs on them but just tires with a lot of grip. Can somebody help me out?
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      08-13-2010, 02:25 PM   #2
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i had stock winter package which is 18 inches michelin pilot alpin and it's not bad.
i live in toronto and this past winter is not too bad.
but know this, doesn't matter how good your winter tire is...ground clearance to the car is definitely an issue.
If it's bad out there...don't bother taking it out.
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      08-13-2010, 02:35 PM   #3
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I have used pilot alpins for years here in Massachusetts and find that the "H" speed rating makes them very good in the dry and wet. However, in snow they're just OK because the tread pattern is intended for ocassional snow not serious snow. Tire Rack can advise on really good snow tires if that's what you want.
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      08-13-2010, 02:38 PM   #4
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Shendrick is passing good advice. Tire Rack should be starting their wheel/tire packages for the winter. That's the approach I'd suggest. so you don't trash your nice wheels and have to keep moving the pressure sensors around. They also have great techs and a good review section to help you decide on the tires.
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      08-13-2010, 02:46 PM   #5
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Go on the regional sections and ask the Calgary and Edmonton guys, some of whom do have the ideal setup.

Ground clearance is a problem with this car but I don't expect Vancouver to have what we've been getting in Calgary these past two winters. The only way out of your local residential streets was with a SUV without turning your car into a ice and snow plow. It was ridiculous! That's why I own a Jeep Rubicon too and will never sell it. No way would I want to drive this M3 in our winter climate here.

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      08-13-2010, 03:11 PM   #6
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I live in Kelowna where we get less winter/snow than Calgary, but more than Vancouver. I get by fine with the BMW OEM 18" wheels and Pilot Alpin snow tires on all 4 corners. Deep snow is a problem however, best to avoid driving it in deep snow.
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      08-13-2010, 03:13 PM   #7
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Nokian Hakka R's for me and they are by far the best snows I've ever had. Very aggressive compound (read: soft) so works great in the snow. I have no issues driving my car up to go skiing here in the winter. Their strength is also their downside - softness means far less dry grip which impacts acceleration, cornering and braking. Still, this is my only car so I chose the more aggressive tire.
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I had Dunlop Wintersport 3D's on my 335i, and they were awesome in the winter. I then had Pirelli Sottozero's on my carrera. The Sottozero's griped better on icy/slippery surfaces, but the Wintersports were better in deep snow. Take the comparison with a grain of salt though, as the rear engine of the 911 give it a huge advantage.

From everything I've learned though, I'd suggest Blizzaks or Wintersport 3D's if you expect to see a lot of snow. Make note of the speed rating on them (some are up to 100mph, some 150) as it's something to consider.
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For best traction possible on snow and ice, go with what I got, which is Blizzak WS-60's.

I used a square 235 setup on 18 inch rims. These tires are fantastic, but be warned: you do lose out on dry road performance, where it feels like you're driving on marshmallows.

If you want the best traction on snow and ice, then these are it.

If you want a tire that will still be reasonable on dry road, and good on snow and ice too, then the Alpin's (recommended by BMW) or the Dunlops are the way to go.
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I threw on a set of Dunlop Wintersport 3D's on my M3 when I picked is up last December and made it through a moderate Michigan winter with no issues. I've also had a set of Blizzak LM-25's on my old 335i and liked them also.

I would have to say either one of these will work fine.
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I use Vredestein Wintertac Extremes, they are available in 19" and are rated for 168+; They worked extremely well in both DC snowstorms this year and are highly capable when there isn't snow on the ground
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What brand of winter tires are the best? I live on the snow belt and I just picked up my brand new m3 and I am in need of the best of the best winter tires. I heard Nokian tyres? or what about michelin? I dont want studs on them but just tires with a lot of grip. Can somebody help me out?
Dude you don't need winter tires for the M3 in Vancouver. I lived in Seattle from 2006 to earlier this year. Had an e46 M3 for the first winter, 997 C2S the second winter, and the e92 M3 for two winters after that. Did not use winter tires on any car (actually ran the summer tires year round and drove gently in the rain on colder days). I think getting a great set of all season high performance tires would be much better for the Vancouver winter than snow tires. Unless of course you are planning on taking your car to Whistler or other mountainous areas, but in this case I would never use the M3 for such driving.
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Dude you don't need winter tires for the M3 in Vancouver. I lived in Seattle from 2006 to earlier this year. Had an e46 M3 for the first winter, 997 C2S the second winter, and the e92 M3 for two winters after that. Did not use winter tires on any car (actually ran the summer tires year round and drove gently in the rain on colder days). I think getting a great set of all season high performance tires would be much better for the Vancouver winter than snow tires. Unless of course you are planning on taking your car to Whistler or other mountainous areas, but in this case I would never use the M3 for such driving.
ohh nono, im from vancouver but i moved to toronto area for university. And we get a lot and a lot of snow, however, there are many trucks plowing the snow each day so roads are not that bad; however, I dont want to risk anything with the m3, thats why I am in need of the best of the best set of winter tires.
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I'm planning on ordering a E92 M3, what do you guys use for wheels for the winter, I know BMW has a overpriced winter and tire package, but are there any other wheel options out there?

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ohh nono, im from vancouver but i moved to toronto area for university. And we get a lot and a lot of snow, however, there are many trucks plowing the snow each day so roads are not that bad; however, I dont want to risk anything with the m3, thats why I am in need of the best of the best set of winter tires.
Well in that case you definitely need snow tires. My wife is from the Toronto area btw...great city.
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What brand of winter tires are the best? I live on the snow belt and I just picked up my brand new m3 and I am in need of the best of the best winter tires. I heard Nokian tyres? or what about michelin? I dont want studs on them but just tires with a lot of grip. Can somebody help me out?
i have the Dunlop M3 wintersport. 245/35 18s all around
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