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      08-09-2010, 08:02 PM   #67
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Subject with the baseball bat should not have escalated the situation by stopping, leaving the vehicle and brandishing a weapon when the threat had subsided.

If subject was in Colorado and was simultaneously confronted by multiple threats, subject would have full right to protect himself, especially if he had a firearm in his vehicle. Current Colorado statue C.R.S. 18-12-105(2): "... allows a person to carry (without a CCW) a firearm in a vehicle, loaded or unloaded (loaded = handguns - both semiauto and revolver, unloaded - long guns), if its use is for lawful protection of such person or another's person or property."

This CO law may be vague, but considering multiple threats with possible unknown weapons towards person/property, the use (i.e. presentation, ready-position, etc.) of a firearm would be justified.

I'm unsure about MA, for firearm laws will most probably be different from CO.
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That would have been epic. Maybe I should put my dad's katana in my trunk?



If I actually say what I want I am just going to get modded...so I'll just say this:

Nope, you're wrong.
Speak your mind..don't let fear and common sense stand in your way.
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      08-09-2010, 09:07 PM   #69
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Speak your mind..don't let fear and common sense stand in your way.
I'll just get infracted which will lead to a ban...I have too many previous infractions from an admin who has had it out for me.
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      08-10-2010, 06:04 AM   #70
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Proper thing to do in TX. law says if your in fear of your life. me being 5'10 170 lbs against 4 dudes. i would have stopped with my pistol concealed. called 9-1-1 to come and fill out a report for the guys damaging my car. if they approach you specially 4 of them u say you dont want any trouble into your phone where the 911 operator hears you. then if 4 dudes attack you, you brandish and if at that point they come at me. 4 on 1 = fear of my life and safety. Specially if my GF, 60+ yr old parent, etc r in the car. just my 2cents on the proper way to handle that situation.
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      08-10-2010, 11:04 AM   #71
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Proper thing to do in TX. law says if your in fear of your life. me being 5'10 170 lbs against 4 dudes. i would have stopped with my pistol concealed. called 9-1-1 to come and fill out a report for the guys damaging my car. if they approach you specially 4 of them u say you dont want any trouble into your phone where the 911 operator hears you. then if 4 dudes attack you, you brandish and if at that point they come at me. 4 on 1 = fear of my life and safety. Specially if my GF, 60+ yr old parent, etc r in the car. just my 2cents on the proper way to handle that situation.
No way an untrained civilian can think through that logic that quickly in the heat of the moment, especially when packing heat. Adrenalin production kicked into overdrive several minutes prior.
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      08-10-2010, 11:32 AM   #72
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he needs to keep two hands on the bat. or at least chalk up his hands before swinging
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      08-10-2010, 11:49 AM   #73
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The guy had every means of escape. All he had to do was drive off. Instead he chose to stop his car, got out, and escalated the situation. If he had theoretically shot someone the DA would probably have sent it to a grand jury. Definitely stopped being self defense the minute he got out of his car.

Also, why would you get out of your car and go at people with a bat? Just run the assholes over.
Maybe he got out of the car and asked those guys to pay for the damages to his car... if somebody stepped on the hood of my car i don't think i could keep my cool.
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      08-10-2010, 12:07 PM   #74
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Maybe he got out of the car and asked those guys to pay for the damages to his car... if somebody stepped on the hood of my car i don't think i could keep my cool.
Perhaps he stopped his car to get their insurance information and took a bat just in case.
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White people are silly. They are so tough in packs :-)
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White people are silly. They are so tough in packs :-)
What makes you think they're white??
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      08-10-2010, 01:20 PM   #77
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What makes you think they're white??
cuz they are tough in packs. Like wolves!
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cuz they are tough in packs. Like wolves!
I don't know, it looked like they were in some "chinatown" area..
But truthfully in my experience, the stereotypical people who get tough in groups are usually cholo's or little asian guys..
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I don't know, it looked like they were in some "chinatown" area..
But truthfully in my experience, the stereotypical people who get tough in groups are usually cholo's or little asian guys..
Well that's because you live in Socal. I was joking btw.

I think guys who get in groups just assume the pack mentality, regardless of ethnicity.
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geez.... never knew there were so many lawyers / civil rights activists on e90post
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he needs to keep two hands on the bat. or at least chalk up his hands before swinging
Pine tar. Its what the pros use.
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Pine tar. Its what the pros use.
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      08-10-2010, 04:16 PM   #83
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Ybbiz, you get your .45?
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      08-11-2010, 01:18 AM   #85
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Nice Gun. I have their TRP Operator. One of my favorites Have you shot it yet?
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geez.... never knew there were so many lawyers / civil rights activists on e90post
Perhaps, but it's more about standing up for your rights a human being. Fight or flight.
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Nice Gun. I have their TRP Operator. One of my favorites Have you shot it yet?
Thanks man. The TRP Operator is outstanding. Any pics?

Haven't had the chance to take it out to the range yet.
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